1 00:00:09,060 --> 00:00:21,570 [Music] 2 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:24,820 you're in the para cast the gold 3 00:00:33,310 --> 00:00:28,450 standard of paranormal radio and now 4 00:00:37,210 --> 00:00:33,320 here's gene Steinberg so Chris O'Brien 5 00:00:39,460 --> 00:00:37,220 is off on special assignment so we are 6 00:00:41,710 --> 00:00:39,470 joined once again by our old friend Jay 7 00:00:44,710 --> 00:00:41,720 Randall Murphy and he's our guest 8 00:00:46,710 --> 00:00:44,720 co-host and on after the para cast this 9 00:00:50,049 --> 00:00:46,720 week we'll also be joined by Randall and 10 00:00:52,750 --> 00:00:50,059 Greg Bishop how about that but right now 11 00:00:54,790 --> 00:00:52,760 we've got Stanton Friedman back and he 12 00:00:56,580 --> 00:00:54,800 was one of our earliest guests on the 13 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:56,590 power cast Stan how you doing these days 14 00:01:01,930 --> 00:00:58,730 well I'm getting older and that's better 15 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:01,940 than the alternative I don't know was it 16 00:01:08,499 --> 00:01:05,170 what was the name of that character that 17 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:08,509 which character a movie a few years ago 18 00:01:14,290 --> 00:01:11,170 where the guy kept getting younger oh 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:14,300 but that was Brad Pitt in what was the 20 00:01:17,650 --> 00:01:16,850 Strange Case of Benjamin Button or 21 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:17,660 something like that 22 00:01:22,660 --> 00:01:21,200 Strange Case of Benjamin I think well 23 00:01:24,580 --> 00:01:22,670 you know at the end of the movie they 24 00:01:25,780 --> 00:01:24,590 buttoned him up and I think he should 25 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:25,790 have been that way through the entire 26 00:01:31,539 --> 00:01:28,310 film it wasn't my favorite film what do 27 00:01:34,060 --> 00:01:31,549 you guys think I didn't see it well you 28 00:01:38,260 --> 00:01:34,070 see you've got it over everyone right 29 00:01:40,749 --> 00:01:38,270 now so Stanton how many years ago did 30 00:01:43,569 --> 00:01:40,759 you and I first meet do you recall 31 00:01:46,630 --> 00:01:43,579 no I don't met too many people I know I 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:46,640 read my first book on UFOs 60 years ago 33 00:01:55,030 --> 00:01:51,290 okay my first lecture in 1967 which is 34 00:01:58,030 --> 00:01:55,040 would 51 years ago so I've been around a 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:01:58,040 long time it sounds like the lyrics or a 36 00:02:04,450 --> 00:02:00,170 song I've been around forever and I 37 00:02:06,399 --> 00:02:04,460 wrote the very first song yeah actually 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:06,409 posted a message in our forms Paul 39 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:09,250 Campbell was going to join us and he's 40 00:02:15,430 --> 00:02:11,930 Stan's nephew unfortunately Paul is 41 00:02:17,620 --> 00:02:15,440 backed up with his post production on 42 00:02:20,350 --> 00:02:17,630 his film work and you know of course 43 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:20,360 that is okay 44 00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:22,450 I really hope that he would be here 45 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:25,310 regardless of that though he was 46 00:02:30,099 --> 00:02:26,930 mentioning that one of the things that 47 00:02:32,260 --> 00:02:30,109 you and he have in common is baseball 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:32,270 how so 49 00:02:38,410 --> 00:02:34,490 well when we have a family reunions we 50 00:02:40,660 --> 00:02:38,420 usually have a baseball game and of 51 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:40,670 course I've been a Dodger fan since I 52 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:42,560 was I don't know eight years old or 53 00:02:48,070 --> 00:02:45,410 something no actually I was younger and 54 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:48,080 when Mickey yo and dropped the fastball 55 00:02:54,460 --> 00:02:51,050 in 1939 and the Dodgers lost the World 56 00:02:56,410 --> 00:02:54,470 Series and you know when the Dodgers 57 00:02:59,170 --> 00:02:56,420 moved to Los Angeles it was two years 58 00:03:01,510 --> 00:02:59,180 later that I moved to Los Angeles and I 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:01,520 did take my kids to the games every so 60 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:04,010 often and I don't think Paula's has ever 61 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:06,770 been to Dodger Stadium but that's 62 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:09,530 alright well I have it on you here I was 63 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:15,290 at Ebbets Field several times oh good my 64 00:03:23,260 --> 00:03:17,330 late brother Wally and I used to walk 65 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:23,270 there how about that yeah I didn't walk 66 00:03:28,030 --> 00:03:27,290 there well how far were you from it from 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:28,040 Dodger Stadium 68 00:03:34,450 --> 00:03:31,370 no from Abbott's field in Brooklyn oh I 69 00:03:36,430 --> 00:03:34,460 grew up in New Jersey I didn't live in 70 00:03:40,330 --> 00:03:36,440 Brooklyn well would be a long walk 71 00:03:42,670 --> 00:03:40,340 certainly yes 18 miles from New York 72 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:42,680 City so Dodger Stadium 73 00:03:49,810 --> 00:03:46,000 I mean it's feel I've been to his field 74 00:03:51,970 --> 00:03:49,820 growing up in Linden New Jersey and you 75 00:03:54,070 --> 00:03:51,980 either a Dodger Yankee your giant fan 76 00:03:57,340 --> 00:03:54,080 I'll give me that one way or the other 77 00:04:00,750 --> 00:03:57,350 you had a choice in dirt you had a 78 00:04:05,230 --> 00:04:00,760 Chewie and I chose her I chose Brooklyn 79 00:04:07,090 --> 00:04:05,240 well when Rose left Brooklyn I decided 80 00:04:09,310 --> 00:04:07,100 at that point that I would give up on 81 00:04:11,860 --> 00:04:09,320 baseball because I realized that 82 00:04:13,449 --> 00:04:11,870 sporting teams were not in it to play 83 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:13,459 baseball but they were there to make 84 00:04:17,620 --> 00:04:15,050 money and if they felt that they could 85 00:04:20,199 --> 00:04:17,630 make more money in Los Angeles they 86 00:04:22,510 --> 00:04:20,209 would go to Los Angeles and I was pretty 87 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:22,520 young by the way I'm not that old and at 88 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:25,010 some point in time if somebody else gave 89 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:27,710 him a better offer they would take care 90 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:29,330 of the better offer they wouldn't really 91 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:34,850 care it was very interesting that 92 00:04:38,830 --> 00:04:36,650 another's baseball thing which has 93 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:38,840 nothing to do with anything but I was 94 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:41,650 taking my wife to a doctor today and 95 00:04:46,140 --> 00:04:43,910 because we're right now in a motel 96 00:04:49,860 --> 00:04:46,150 between homes too complicated too 97 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:49,870 explain we took our dog teddy bear with 98 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:52,960 us and he sat in the special seat in the 99 00:05:02,670 --> 00:04:55,570 back of the car and somebody comes up 100 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:02,680 about my age with a Red Sox hat and as 101 00:05:09,630 --> 00:05:06,370 soon as he approached teddy bear starts 102 00:05:12,630 --> 00:05:09,640 barking intensely and turns out this guy 103 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:12,640 as I said about my age grew up in 104 00:05:18,030 --> 00:05:15,310 Brooklyn when the Dodgers left he wanted 105 00:05:21,270 --> 00:05:18,040 to embrace a team and he didn't want the 106 00:05:24,270 --> 00:05:21,280 Yankees or the Giants so he went and 107 00:05:29,430 --> 00:05:24,280 embraced the Red Sox and I guess that's 108 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:29,440 what made teddy bear upset he must be a 109 00:05:37,020 --> 00:05:32,290 psychic dog or a psycho dog depending on 110 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:37,030 how you judge that yeah fun points of 111 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:39,790 view change you can certainly bet that 112 00:05:43,410 --> 00:05:42,910 but let's just get to our crazy field 113 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:43,420 here 114 00:05:49,190 --> 00:05:46,090 I heard the sad news maybe it's not sad 115 00:05:54,390 --> 00:05:49,200 news for you I don't know that you are 116 00:05:56,780 --> 00:05:54,400 retiring as a UFO investigator why well 117 00:06:00,000 --> 00:05:56,790 not so much as an investigator as a 118 00:06:03,330 --> 00:06:00,010 speaker I've given over 700 lectures in 119 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:03,340 all 50 states ten provinces and 19 other 120 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:05,770 countries so I've been crepes and around 121 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:09,610 the world and keeping busy that way and 122 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:11,130 I live in Fredericton New Brunswick 123 00:06:18,500 --> 00:06:14,050 which only has direct service to very 124 00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:18,510 few places like Toronto Montreal Ottawa 125 00:06:25,860 --> 00:06:22,080 Halifax I guess yeah we do have one 126 00:06:29,820 --> 00:06:25,870 otherwise it's a lot of flying I'm going 127 00:06:31,620 --> 00:06:29,830 off next week two weeks for flights to 128 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:31,630 get where I'm going in Eureka Springs 129 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:35,650 Arkansas for a conference and I'll do 130 00:06:39,930 --> 00:06:37,450 Roswell which isn't the easiest place to 131 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:39,940 get to but enough is enough 132 00:06:48,900 --> 00:06:46,690 I mean I'm 84 in July I will be and you 133 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:48,910 know I've been schlepping if you will 134 00:06:56,030 --> 00:06:51,910 everywhere and look it's been great it's 135 00:06:58,290 --> 00:06:56,040 been fun uh but I'll get tired of it 136 00:07:00,090 --> 00:06:58,300 aren't I entitled to a retirement 137 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:00,100 sometime come on 138 00:07:08,130 --> 00:07:04,210 my social security I'm collecting it you 139 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:08,140 are giving us the r-word retirement you 140 00:07:14,910 --> 00:07:12,370 know William Shatner is 87 Wow and he's 141 00:07:19,460 --> 00:07:14,920 a Canadian by the way just in case yes I 142 00:07:24,330 --> 00:07:19,470 know okay he's apparently still at it 143 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:24,340 Wow we're power to him in fact he had a 144 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:27,130 birthday just seven days ago considering 145 00:07:32,900 --> 00:07:30,960 when we did this show on March 22nd 1931 146 00:07:36,090 --> 00:07:32,910 William Shatner 147 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:36,100 he had no sighting himself too I believe 148 00:07:41,550 --> 00:07:38,490 if you look into some of his history I 149 00:07:45,060 --> 00:07:41,560 didn't know that yeah well I wrote a 150 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:45,070 story about it for saga magazine going 151 00:07:50,550 --> 00:07:48,850 bug derangement enemies but the thing is 152 00:07:53,580 --> 00:07:50,560 here is I am NOT a hundred percent 153 00:07:55,220 --> 00:07:53,590 convinced she wasn't putting us on not 154 00:07:57,660 --> 00:07:55,230 that I know anything about shatter 155 00:08:00,750 --> 00:07:57,670 except he's you know kind of full of 156 00:08:03,630 --> 00:08:00,760 himself so I have no idea 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percent of the 171 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:42,510 hands go down so people are interested 172 00:08:46,940 --> 00:08:44,370 they believe in flying saucers but they 173 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:46,950 think other people think they're nuts on 174 00:08:50,750 --> 00:08:48,930 the other hand I've only had 11 hecklers 175 00:08:52,430 --> 00:08:50,760 and I haven't had one in years in over 176 00:08:54,410 --> 00:08:52,440 700 lectures so I must be doing 177 00:08:58,930 --> 00:08:54,420 something right and I come on very 178 00:09:02,690 --> 00:08:58,940 strong I am NOT an apologist ufologist 179 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:02,700 folks I just looked this up 180 00:09:07,850 --> 00:09:05,040 quoting William Shatner in all those 181 00:09:09,860 --> 00:09:07,860 years I've sort of gone with it and then 182 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:09,870 I finally said no I really made it up 183 00:09:19,990 --> 00:09:16,650 and then I can't get rid of it Oh what 184 00:09:25,070 --> 00:09:20,000 furs UFOs say 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coming up but 312 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:31,399 you're still gonna be on radio and 313 00:14:36,070 --> 00:14:33,529 everything like that right well sure I 314 00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:36,080 could do radio from my desk which is 315 00:14:40,540 --> 00:14:38,000 kind of neat and I need to wear anything 316 00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:40,550 fancy and televisions are kind of a pain 317 00:14:48,220 --> 00:14:44,000 that way yeah I'll be available for my 318 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:48,230 voice only maybe if I can get my Skype 319 00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:50,450 to work once in a while little Skype 320 00:14:59,500 --> 00:14:55,760 things but you know I enjoy it I have 321 00:15:01,240 --> 00:14:59,510 enjoyed it but enough is enough and my 322 00:15:06,100 --> 00:15:01,250 wife would like to see me at home a bit 323 00:15:08,260 --> 00:15:06,110 more you know so it's time what do you 324 00:15:09,730 --> 00:15:08,270 think her summer of the sate top three 325 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:09,740 or four highlights you've had in your 326 00:15:16,060 --> 00:15:13,690 time as ecologist no boy one was 327 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:16,070 appearing at the United Nations way back 328 00:15:23,050 --> 00:15:19,370 in the late 1970s the General Assembly 329 00:15:26,079 --> 00:15:23,060 good good audience could crowd another 330 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:26,089 was the attention I brought to the 331 00:15:30,820 --> 00:15:28,910 Roswell incident I'm the original 332 00:15:33,730 --> 00:15:30,830 civilian investigator the Roswell 333 00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:33,740 incident they love me in Roswell I'll be 334 00:15:39,310 --> 00:15:36,070 there and one of my last appearances in 335 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:39,320 July they have an annual festival and 336 00:15:44,050 --> 00:15:41,690 for people who think no these interested 337 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:44,060 in flying saucers last year the 338 00:15:48,130 --> 00:15:45,770 International UFO Museum and Research 339 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:48,140 Center in Roswell which has my picture 340 00:15:57,069 --> 00:15:50,810 on the wall I've been elected to the 341 00:15:59,650 --> 00:15:57,079 Roswell UFO Hall of Fame last year they 342 00:16:01,750 --> 00:15:59,660 had two hundred and five thousand 343 00:16:04,269 --> 00:16:01,760 visitors to Roswell which is in the 344 00:16:05,980 --> 00:16:04,279 middle of nowhere it's 200 miles from 345 00:16:09,010 --> 00:16:05,990 Albuquerque dinner miles from El Paso 346 00:16:11,500 --> 00:16:09,020 200 miles from Amarillo if you're there 347 00:16:14,290 --> 00:16:11,510 is because you want to be there no wait 348 00:16:16,329 --> 00:16:14,300 anyway and so I've been very pleased 349 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:16,339 that tells us that the United States 350 00:16:20,650 --> 00:16:18,529 government a few people within the 351 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:20,660 United States government we're well 352 00:16:24,060 --> 00:16:21,170 aware 353 00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:24,070 that we had alien visitors back in 1947 354 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:28,190 well we had Richard Doty on the para 355 00:16:34,060 --> 00:16:30,649 cast a couple of episodes ago and I 356 00:16:35,650 --> 00:16:34,070 don't know if you got this but he okay 357 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:35,660 well you're gonna love this because he 358 00:16:42,790 --> 00:16:40,010 said you know who he is I'm sure and he 359 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:42,800 was saying that when he was briefed into 360 00:16:47,889 --> 00:16:44,690 the Air Force Office of Special 361 00:16:52,269 --> 00:16:47,899 Investigations that he was shown films 362 00:16:55,199 --> 00:16:52,279 of the Roswell crash saucers actual 363 00:16:58,650 --> 00:16:55,209 filming no yeah you've gotta read that 364 00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:58,660 he actually said that on our show it was 365 00:17:03,970 --> 00:17:01,279 quite a revelation but I mean who knows 366 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:03,980 what can be believed but I that was 367 00:17:08,860 --> 00:17:05,510 definitely something I thought we should 368 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:08,870 get your commentary on well yeah I I'm 369 00:17:13,179 --> 00:17:10,790 amazed that he would say that no I 370 00:17:15,610 --> 00:17:13,189 always talk about the cosmic Watergate 371 00:17:16,210 --> 00:17:15,620 and I'm like many of the people in the 372 00:17:18,659 --> 00:17:16,220 field 373 00:17:21,819 --> 00:17:18,669 I had a security clearance for 14 years 374 00:17:23,260 --> 00:17:21,829 while working on a variety of eventually 375 00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:23,270 cancelled government-sponsored research 376 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:25,520 and development programs for companies 377 00:17:33,310 --> 00:17:29,410 like GE GM marriage a general 378 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:33,320 Westinghouse McDonnell Douglas etc leave 379 00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:36,530 mention that before stand basically all 380 00:17:45,130 --> 00:17:39,440 of the projects you were involved in 381 00:17:48,190 --> 00:17:45,140 eventually what's cancelled yep so when 382 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:48,200 I became a full-time ufologist I haven't 383 00:17:52,210 --> 00:17:50,450 had any cancellations well you're 384 00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:52,220 canceling your lectures but you're doing 385 00:17:58,419 --> 00:17:54,799 that well I'm ending them I'm not 386 00:18:01,270 --> 00:17:58,429 canceling any commitment I have made so 387 00:18:02,890 --> 00:18:01,280 far will be kept of course they just 388 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:02,900 won't make any more commitments that's 389 00:18:07,570 --> 00:18:05,450 all except for radio so we might still 390 00:18:11,049 --> 00:18:07,580 be able to get you back on with Paulie 391 00:18:12,669 --> 00:18:11,059 on future I grew up with radio there was 392 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:12,679 no television when I was girl 393 00:18:19,870 --> 00:18:16,970 rady who radio radio that's what this is 394 00:18:22,299 --> 00:18:19,880 folks 18 miles from New York City there 395 00:18:25,419 --> 00:18:22,309 was lots of radio going on in New York 396 00:18:26,650 --> 00:18:25,429 City when I was growing up like maybe we 397 00:18:28,450 --> 00:18:26,660 should go right to a couple of the 398 00:18:34,810 --> 00:18:28,460 questions from our forum we've had some 399 00:18:37,780 --> 00:18:34,820 interest in in in your here sure so from 400 00:18:39,910 --> 00:18:37,790 one of our members run away he first 401 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:39,920 says Sten have a long happy retirement 402 00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:43,610 and asks you and your nephew Paul on the 403 00:18:48,490 --> 00:18:45,830 surface seem to be miles apart in your 404 00:18:51,910 --> 00:18:48,500 opinions regarding UFOs do you share any 405 00:18:53,770 --> 00:18:51,920 common ground if so what is it well we 406 00:18:56,350 --> 00:18:53,780 both have a serious interests and 407 00:18:59,730 --> 00:18:56,360 educating the public and he made a movie 408 00:19:04,030 --> 00:18:59,740 Stanton T Friedman is real 409 00:19:06,460 --> 00:19:04,040 what the heck so it's not you know when 410 00:19:11,140 --> 00:19:06,470 we get together at family gatherings 411 00:19:13,420 --> 00:19:11,150 which happens once a year or so I were 412 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:13,430 on very good terms I mean I'm uncle Stan 413 00:19:21,370 --> 00:19:18,770 after all I'm a lot older so and Paul 414 00:19:24,340 --> 00:19:21,380 has brought interest he was basically a 415 00:19:27,490 --> 00:19:24,350 historian and so there is a historical 416 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:27,500 aspect of flying saucers and I commanded 417 00:19:31,930 --> 00:19:29,810 as a technologist you know I worked on 418 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:31,940 nuclear rockets into clear airplanes and 419 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:33,890 fusion rockets and nuclear power plants 420 00:19:39,070 --> 00:19:35,570 through space and stuff like that 421 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:39,080 far-out stuff but you know what one 422 00:19:42,730 --> 00:19:40,850 thing a lot of people think research oh 423 00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:42,740 yeah that's when six professors in 12 424 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:45,440 grants get together well that was their 425 00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:47,930 kind of nuclear airplanes 426 00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:53,840 between 56 and 59 1956 and 1959 in 1958 427 00:19:59,740 --> 00:19:56,960 our budget was 100 million dollars and 428 00:20:02,230 --> 00:19:59,750 we employed 3400 people of whom 1,100 429 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:02,240 were engineers and scientists this was 430 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:05,770 not a few guys with nothing better to do 431 00:20:10,330 --> 00:20:07,850 and a lot of people aren't aware of 432 00:20:12,550 --> 00:20:10,340 those large-scale programs nuclear 433 00:20:15,580 --> 00:20:12,560 rocket engines we successfully operated 434 00:20:18,990 --> 00:20:15,590 a nuclear-powered rocket on the ground 435 00:20:20,890 --> 00:20:19,000 couldn't takeoff power level ours was 436 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:20,900 1,100 megawatts 437 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:24,530 that's over damps 2,000 exhaust 438 00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:27,730 temperatures 4,000 degrees Fahrenheit so 439 00:20:38,350 --> 00:20:36,340 the program of course yeah I could sort 440 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:38,360 of see why with all the concern about 441 00:20:43,210 --> 00:20:41,090 radiation and so on but I've seen some 442 00:20:46,420 --> 00:20:43,220 of the older actually videos they've got 443 00:20:48,540 --> 00:20:46,430 of that now and it's it's pretty cool to 444 00:20:50,970 --> 00:20:48,550 think that one of the people in ufology 445 00:20:53,310 --> 00:20:50,980 actually got what it takes to worked on 446 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:53,320 one of those programs on a peripheral 447 00:20:57,780 --> 00:20:55,930 note on this another thing that Dodie it 448 00:21:00,600 --> 00:20:57,790 said and you might find this interesting 449 00:21:03,030 --> 00:21:00,610 because we've asked you in the past if 450 00:21:05,820 --> 00:21:03,040 maybe the cash Landrum affair might have 451 00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:05,830 had something to do with that exact 452 00:21:12,420 --> 00:21:08,670 program the experimental nuclear rocket 453 00:21:16,590 --> 00:21:12,430 propulsion and what he said was that the 454 00:21:18,060 --> 00:21:16,600 cast Landrum case was a situation of 455 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:18,070 reverse engineering where they were 456 00:21:23,550 --> 00:21:20,650 trying to use some sort of terrestrial 457 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:23,560 power supply to power an alien craft and 458 00:21:31,770 --> 00:21:27,370 it just went really wrong what I might 459 00:21:33,780 --> 00:21:31,780 have to say to that well certainly was a 460 00:21:36,090 --> 00:21:33,790 strange vehicle that was seen Nikesh 461 00:21:38,550 --> 00:21:36,100 Landrum case I had no qualms about the 462 00:21:40,620 --> 00:21:38,560 witnesses and a good aerospace engineer 463 00:21:44,540 --> 00:21:40,630 at John Shuster was heavily involved in 464 00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:44,550 the investigation there wrote a book yes 465 00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:49,840 and so I can't prove that wasn't true 466 00:21:56,790 --> 00:21:52,720 certainly look one of the big interest 467 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:56,800 the government has in flying saucers 468 00:22:00,960 --> 00:21:58,090 trying to figure out how the darn things 469 00:22:03,030 --> 00:22:00,970 work make wonderful weapons delivery and 470 00:22:06,110 --> 00:22:03,040 defense systems wouldn't you say you 471 00:22:11,670 --> 00:22:06,120 know up down back forth silent etc etc 472 00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:11,680 so you would hope that since they have 473 00:22:16,140 --> 00:22:13,750 the best systems for collecting data the 474 00:22:18,570 --> 00:22:16,150 instrument state to get electromagnetic 475 00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:18,580 signals from flying saucers to track 476 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:21,280 them to watch the right angle turns see 477 00:22:25,230 --> 00:22:23,710 how colors change and all kinds of stuff 478 00:22:28,680 --> 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learn more if you go to 619 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:50,090 plus not apparent cast com+ not the para 620 00:28:53,739 --> 00:28:52,730 cast come stand before we go back to 621 00:28:55,419 --> 00:28:53,749 what you were talking about before the 622 00:28:58,090 --> 00:28:55,429 break a thought occurred to me here 623 00:29:02,169 --> 00:28:58,100 mentioning these early tests with 624 00:29:06,909 --> 00:29:02,179 nuclear-powered craft and radiation 625 00:29:10,210 --> 00:29:06,919 issues cash Landrum case they had 626 00:29:12,639 --> 00:29:10,220 symptoms which were I guess to radiation 627 00:29:15,009 --> 00:29:12,649 poisoning could that have been a test 628 00:29:18,009 --> 00:29:15,019 aircraft of some kind where it just 629 00:29:21,609 --> 00:29:18,019 really wasn't doing so well I can't say 630 00:29:24,369 --> 00:29:21,619 it wasn't let's put it that way it 631 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:24,379 behaved strangely the effects on them 632 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:25,730 were clear and 633 00:29:31,150 --> 00:29:29,210 range not conventional obviously sort of 634 00:29:34,030 --> 00:29:31,160 a strange place to test but it's not a 635 00:29:35,170 --> 00:29:34,040 heavily populated area as you know sort 636 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:35,180 of in the middle of nowhere 637 00:29:40,540 --> 00:29:37,250 I don't know who the prime contract 638 00:29:41,950 --> 00:29:40,550 would have been contractor it's funny I 639 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:41,960 did work when I was working on nuclear 640 00:29:48,610 --> 00:29:46,690 airplanes convair Fort Worth Texas was a 641 00:29:50,350 --> 00:29:48,620 subcontractor and I did radiation 642 00:29:52,660 --> 00:29:50,360 experiments radiation drilling 643 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:52,670 experiments out at pecan where Fort 644 00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:54,290 Worth test facility 645 00:29:59,950 --> 00:29:57,260 you know that's Texas and as you may 646 00:30:03,760 --> 00:29:59,960 recall Texas had very powerful friends 647 00:30:07,060 --> 00:30:03,770 and Congress back then so they tended to 648 00:30:10,270 --> 00:30:07,070 have an inside track on getting research 649 00:30:12,430 --> 00:30:10,280 and development contracts so convair 650 00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:12,440 Fort Worth I worked with them on when I 651 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:14,390 was working on the nuclear point right 652 00:30:19,060 --> 00:30:17,090 in Texas we never flew anything as far 653 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:19,070 as I know and I was on the inside so to 654 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:22,370 speak but that was way back in the late 655 00:30:30,250 --> 00:30:26,450 50s so plenty of time since then and 656 00:30:34,930 --> 00:30:30,260 convair it's an aerospace contractor 657 00:30:38,430 --> 00:30:34,940 that had a nuclear test facility so who 658 00:30:41,890 --> 00:30:38,440 knows I'd love to talk to Doty 659 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:41,900 absolutely well we may have said we 660 00:30:46,990 --> 00:30:44,210 might have him back on the show so you 661 00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:47,000 know who knows maybe pain can get you 662 00:30:52,810 --> 00:30:50,630 both on the same show together same fine 663 00:30:55,210 --> 00:30:52,820 with me I can say I'll be talking I 664 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:55,220 won't be traveling well that will give 665 00:30:59,530 --> 00:30:57,050 us more time to get you aboard 666 00:31:02,320 --> 00:30:59,540 we'll see what Doty is doing do you have 667 00:31:05,470 --> 00:31:02,330 any feeling though since we go back to 668 00:31:05,890 --> 00:31:05,480 that now I think one of our guests said 669 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:05,900 that 670 00:31:13,060 --> 00:31:09,050 maybe 80% of his patter is kind of made 671 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:13,070 up Chris O'Brien says 70% is true but 672 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:15,410 doesn't really come to a conclusion as 673 00:31:24,660 --> 00:31:21,130 to which 30% is the lie do you mean yes 674 00:31:27,910 --> 00:31:24,670 look when you play those security game 675 00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:27,920 their rules to follow there are problems 676 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:31,760 to avoid and ain't no penalties for lyin 677 00:31:38,290 --> 00:31:35,090 what the hell as long as you know you're 678 00:31:39,549 --> 00:31:38,300 not releasing classified information but 679 00:31:42,190 --> 00:31:39,559 then like what number 680 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:42,200 you know for breaking security if what 681 00:31:46,570 --> 00:31:44,090 they're saying isn't true then we're 682 00:31:48,909 --> 00:31:46,580 stuck in this situation where well if 683 00:31:51,879 --> 00:31:48,919 he's telling us that he saw films of 684 00:31:54,430 --> 00:31:51,889 crashed saucers he's no longer covering 685 00:31:56,379 --> 00:31:54,440 up anything and at the same time if he's 686 00:31:59,289 --> 00:31:56,389 talking about classified military 687 00:32:01,960 --> 00:31:59,299 technology he's not really covering up 688 00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:01,970 that either so you know what is he 689 00:32:07,899 --> 00:32:06,230 really covering up this because it 690 00:32:10,509 --> 00:32:07,909 depends whether he released classified 691 00:32:13,299 --> 00:32:10,519 information in the sense of a document 692 00:32:15,940 --> 00:32:13,309 piece of paper or stamped top-secret 693 00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:15,950 restricted or something like that you 694 00:32:20,109 --> 00:32:17,840 know there's a very important memo the 695 00:32:23,019 --> 00:32:20,119 bolander memorable general Carroll 696 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:23,029 Bolender was an Air Force general and 697 00:32:28,049 --> 00:32:25,730 after the Condon report he was asked 698 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:28,059 what should we do about flying saucers 699 00:32:35,019 --> 00:32:32,450 so he wrote a memo and in it he's 700 00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:35,029 pointed out among other things that 701 00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:37,190 reports of UFOs which could affect 702 00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:39,919 national security are made in accordance 703 00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:41,720 with Jay Knapp join Army Navy Air Force 704 00:32:49,930 --> 00:32:45,769 publication 146 or Air Force Manual 55 - 705 00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:49,940 11 and are not part of the blue book 706 00:32:56,769 --> 00:32:53,809 system as a shocking statement and I 707 00:32:58,690 --> 00:32:56,779 located Bolender fortunately his name 708 00:33:00,999 --> 00:32:58,700 isn't Smith so there are a lot fewer Bo 709 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:01,009 Anderson smooth and I said it sounds to 710 00:33:05,230 --> 00:33:02,210 me like you're talking about two 711 00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:05,240 separate communication channels reports 712 00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:06,830 which could affect national security and 713 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:09,529 reports good they said yes and I don't 714 00:33:12,879 --> 00:33:11,090 know anybody else would talk to him I 715 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:12,889 understand he's deceased now so I don't 716 00:33:15,639 --> 00:33:14,090 know how to reach him maybe you have 717 00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:15,649 some strange guests who couldn't reach 718 00:33:21,159 --> 00:33:18,440 across the line we do have guests who 719 00:33:25,049 --> 00:33:21,169 claim to do that but I don't think I 720 00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:25,059 believe them any more than you do okay 721 00:33:29,950 --> 00:33:27,529 well maybe you do I don't know I never 722 00:33:31,869 --> 00:33:29,960 asked you about that no but what I'm 723 00:33:34,539 --> 00:33:31,879 saying is Bohlander made it very very 724 00:33:37,389 --> 00:33:34,549 clear and and that's one of the reasons 725 00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:37,399 that I went too heavily into operation 726 00:33:42,340 --> 00:33:40,190 majestic 12 because the question obvious 727 00:33:43,869 --> 00:33:42,350 question was okay if they didn't go to 728 00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:43,879 Project Blue Book where the hell would I 729 00:33:50,139 --> 00:33:48,169 go you know legitimate question and I 730 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:50,149 found that there are at least three 731 00:33:55,870 --> 00:33:52,970 genuine majestic 12 documents 732 00:33:57,580 --> 00:33:55,880 and a whole bunch of Pony lunch even the 733 00:34:01,030 --> 00:33:57,590 phony ones are really interesting I mean 734 00:34:03,010 --> 00:34:01,040 somebody went to a lot of effort to get 735 00:34:05,890 --> 00:34:03,020 those in in place and get them to you 736 00:34:10,060 --> 00:34:05,900 people and to make them look legitimate 737 00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:10,070 enough to pass the initial filters so 738 00:34:16,870 --> 00:34:13,730 even into Fabian's are interesting in in 739 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:16,880 a sense well it's the attitudes of the 740 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:18,650 noisy negative is that get to meet 741 00:34:23,140 --> 00:34:20,930 Philip Glass challenged me on one of 742 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:23,150 them of the color toning memo right 743 00:34:29,340 --> 00:34:23,690 Bobby 744 00:34:31,870 --> 00:34:29,350 there was advisor to the president and 745 00:34:32,740 --> 00:34:31,880 Phil challenged me because the typeface 746 00:34:35,410 --> 00:34:32,750 was wrong 747 00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:35,420 he said they only used a leak type and 748 00:34:40,540 --> 00:34:37,250 that's done in the large pyko type and 749 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:40,550 he'll pay me $100 for every genuine 750 00:34:45,610 --> 00:34:41,930 document meeting a bunch of 751 00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:45,620 qualifications and I had 60 days for a 752 00:34:52,630 --> 00:34:50,510 maximum of 10 so I went to my files and 753 00:34:54,700 --> 00:34:52,640 I found immediately 20 pages of stuff 754 00:34:58,240 --> 00:34:54,710 that was done in the same size and style 755 00:35:00,400 --> 00:34:58,250 type but then I was visiting the 756 00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:00,410 Eisenhower library anyway cut a bunch 757 00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:04,640 more and so I made up copies of I mean I 758 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:07,520 I gathered 14 have a little bubble on 759 00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:10,250 the side so to speak and sent filling in 760 00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:12,800 voice copies and an invoice for a 761 00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:14,540 thousand dollars and he paid me and they 762 00:35:21,130 --> 00:35:17,000 got mattered hell when I published a 763 00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:21,140 copy of his check in one of my books but 764 00:35:24,010 --> 00:35:22,310 he had never been to the Eisenhower 765 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:24,020 library that's typical of the 766 00:35:29,140 --> 00:35:25,370 intellectual bankruptcy of the 767 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:29,150 pseudoscience of anti ufology you know 768 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:30,530 make a claim you don't need to have any 769 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:34,310 evidence that was full class well fill 770 00:35:38,860 --> 00:35:36,710 class was no class she was certainly a 771 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:38,870 unique type now gang back to Doty 772 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:42,170 because it dovetails here he said that 773 00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:44,810 the famous or infamous Eisenhower 774 00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:47,150 briefing document it was kind of a 775 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:50,000 composite of several documents it was 776 00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:52,370 not in itself real that was his opinion 777 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:55,760 Doty that's interesting as he read my 778 00:36:01,000 --> 00:35:58,490 book you know I haven't gone through all 779 00:36:04,510 --> 00:36:01,010 those questions I assume talking to him 780 00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:04,520 that he is certainly conversant with a 781 00:36:10,180 --> 00:36:06,710 lot of the UFO related in for 782 00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:10,190 maisha let's put it that way I'll be 783 00:36:16,540 --> 00:36:12,380 happy to send them a copy of top secret 784 00:36:20,589 --> 00:36:16,550 magic which says mj-12 documents three 785 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:20,599 good ones definitely a real project most 786 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:22,250 important class of my documents that 787 00:36:26,470 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00:41:34,550 question have there been any new 901 00:41:39,830 --> 00:41:37,860 documents in the past decade or so not 902 00:41:42,850 --> 00:41:39,840 that I can think of that is ones that 903 00:41:46,130 --> 00:41:42,860 are breakthrough documents definitely 904 00:41:48,820 --> 00:41:46,140 genuine and telling stories about things 905 00:41:53,170 --> 00:41:48,830 we didn't know about no I wish I did 906 00:41:55,610 --> 00:41:53,180 this is oh he knows where I can find so 907 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:55,620 well maybe he'll make some really good 908 00:41:59,870 --> 00:41:56,010 ones 909 00:42:03,040 --> 00:41:59,880 what about incarnation of mj-12 today I 910 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:03,050 mean if this was taking place back then 911 00:42:07,340 --> 00:42:05,370 obviously there were study groups that 912 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:07,350 we're studying UFOs back then whether we 913 00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:11,010 call them mj-12 or not and I've looked 914 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:12,480 at both sides of the argument and 915 00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:15,330 there's I I certainly can't rule out 916 00:42:18,410 --> 00:42:17,670 that there certainly was some sort of 917 00:42:19,970 --> 00:42:18,420 mj-12 918 00:42:22,130 --> 00:42:19,980 what do you think happened to them and 919 00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:22,140 what's going on today did they pass off 920 00:42:28,070 --> 00:42:25,440 this project to new people who are still 921 00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:28,080 behind the scenes do you think today or 922 00:42:33,950 --> 00:42:31,110 what's going on I certainly think that 923 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:33,960 they changed the name when names get 924 00:42:38,780 --> 00:42:36,690 compromised you change the names that's 925 00:42:40,850 --> 00:42:38,790 standard practice and industry when 926 00:42:43,010 --> 00:42:40,860 you're doing classified work I think 927 00:42:46,490 --> 00:42:43,020 that there still is a need for such a 928 00:42:48,770 --> 00:42:46,500 group because again the focus is on are 929 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:48,780 they learning to destroy our aircraft 930 00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:52,050 are they vulnerable to us how can we get 931 00:42:58,460 --> 00:42:54,960 them to come down in not in little 932 00:43:02,720 --> 00:42:58,470 pieces but in in total so to speak so we 933 00:43:04,580 --> 00:43:02,730 can duplicate them the saucers also one 934 00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:04,590 of the underlying questions here is what 935 00:43:09,650 --> 00:43:07,920 the heck do they want are they long term 936 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:09,660 enemies of the planet 937 00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:12,330 or are they good guys working for the 938 00:43:17,780 --> 00:43:14,880 Galactic Federation intelligence agency 939 00:43:20,780 --> 00:43:17,790 and they don't want to let anybody like 940 00:43:23,630 --> 00:43:20,790 us who has set off to thousands in 941 00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:23,640 nuclear weapons and we certainly know 942 00:43:28,460 --> 00:43:25,920 that you can use nuclear technology for 943 00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:28,470 star travel fusion in particular I 944 00:43:34,089 --> 00:43:31,369 worked on the study of that in 1962 945 00:43:38,109 --> 00:43:34,099 would you believe here's what powers the 946 00:43:40,809 --> 00:43:38,119 stars also hbox - but most people have 947 00:43:43,329 --> 00:43:40,819 no understanding of how much more energy 948 00:43:47,049 --> 00:43:43,339 is involved with a fusion device than 949 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:47,059 with a chemical device you know well to 950 00:43:52,059 --> 00:43:49,130 illustrate in World War 2 a big bomb was 951 00:43:55,029 --> 00:43:52,069 a 10 ton blockbuster 10 tons of dynamite 952 00:43:57,970 --> 00:43:55,039 a bomb wow what a big hole in the ground 953 00:44:01,299 --> 00:43:57,980 it would make ok our first atomic bomb 954 00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:01,309 released the energy of 15,000 tons of 955 00:44:07,089 --> 00:44:03,440 dynamite that's a big jump 956 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:07,099 our first h-bomb fusion device in 1962 957 00:44:16,059 --> 00:44:11,710 of 52 sorry release the energy of 10 958 00:44:17,799 --> 00:44:16,069 million tons of dynamite so in a short 959 00:44:21,370 --> 00:44:17,809 period of time in other words we go from 960 00:44:25,210 --> 00:44:21,380 10 to 15,000 to 10 million than the 961 00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:25,220 Russians about 1961 set off tsar bomba 962 00:44:33,279 --> 00:44:29,470 it was called not my name there's a big 963 00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:33,289 very powerful bomb that released the 964 00:44:42,099 --> 00:44:39,049 energy of 50 million tons of dynamite 965 00:44:43,779 --> 00:44:42,109 the point of mentioning all this is you 966 00:44:45,630 --> 00:44:43,789 get control of that much energy you can 967 00:44:48,279 --> 00:44:45,640 use the fusion to get you to the stars 968 00:44:51,220 --> 00:44:48,289 so I would understand that aliens would 969 00:44:54,009 --> 00:44:51,230 not want us to be able to bother them 970 00:44:56,259 --> 00:44:54,019 who would want us out there I mean what 971 00:44:58,989 --> 00:44:56,269 a track record we have World War 2 Wow 972 00:45:01,900 --> 00:44:58,999 we only killed 50 million people we 973 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:01,910 destroyed 1700 cities would you want 974 00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:03,650 anybody like that to move out onto the 975 00:45:08,769 --> 00:45:05,599 galactic neighborhood I don't think so 976 00:45:10,930 --> 00:45:08,779 that's together especially if you're 977 00:45:13,180 --> 00:45:10,940 using nuclear bombs for propulsion I 978 00:45:18,249 --> 00:45:13,190 mean I think there's a starship design 979 00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:18,259 based on that principle I don't want to 980 00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,569 use Orion I don't want to use the bond 981 00:45:24,670 --> 00:45:22,400 so we float about the back end but I 982 00:45:26,499 --> 00:45:24,680 want to use the fusion process which is 983 00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:26,509 what powers that's what H bombs are all 984 00:45:32,229 --> 00:45:30,529 about then you've got this secondary 985 00:45:34,930 --> 00:45:32,239 issue though I mean okay once we've got 986 00:45:37,870 --> 00:45:34,940 the fusion power in place we're still 987 00:45:39,729 --> 00:45:37,880 not sure how they apply that energy to 988 00:45:43,650 --> 00:45:39,739 allow their mother ships to just sort of 989 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:43,660 hover magically in air with no apparent 990 00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:44,930 propulsion 991 00:45:50,740 --> 00:45:47,510 well that's easy I talked about this in 992 00:45:53,950 --> 00:45:50,750 my books you have a magneto aerodynamic 993 00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:53,960 propulsion system you ionize the air so 994 00:45:56,890 --> 00:45:55,520 it's electrically conducting and you 995 00:45:59,350 --> 00:45:56,900 interact with electric and magnetic 996 00:46:02,050 --> 00:45:59,360 fields in control lifts Craig 997 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:02,060 heating sonic boom production you can 998 00:46:07,420 --> 00:46:05,090 control radar profile all these come out 999 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:07,430 of that as a matter of fact strange 1000 00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:09,530 story and we cancelled the nuclear 1001 00:46:13,390 --> 00:46:11,270 rocket program after our great successes 1002 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:13,400 and I was looking for a job didn't 1003 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:15,050 interview what I was working in 1004 00:46:19,690 --> 00:46:17,690 Pittsburgh did an interview in Santa 1005 00:46:24,580 --> 00:46:19,700 Monica California with McDonnell Douglas 1006 00:46:29,340 --> 00:46:24,590 astronautics and got a job offer and my 1007 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:29,350 job would have been to figure out how 1008 00:46:35,170 --> 00:46:32,330 long saucers worked the atmospheric 1009 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:35,180 aspect of it as I was driving across the 1010 00:46:40,210 --> 00:46:38,570 country that the program the manned 1011 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:40,220 orbiting laboratory program which would 1012 00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:42,530 have funded this was canceled how'd you 1013 00:46:46,570 --> 00:46:44,240 like to walk in for a job interview and 1014 00:46:48,340 --> 00:46:46,580 say you know we just slide off 5,000 1015 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:48,350 people that's what I was told 1016 00:46:53,350 --> 00:46:50,810 anyway they kept me on for a while for 1017 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:53,360 three months and I did a literature 1018 00:46:59,710 --> 00:46:55,610 search of government reports using the 1019 00:47:02,230 --> 00:46:59,720 keyword magneto aerodynamics only 1020 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:02,240 government reports and would you believe 1021 00:47:11,820 --> 00:47:08,690 I got 900 abstracts 90% were classified 1022 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:11,830 so there were a lot of work going on on 1023 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:15,890 magneto aerodynamic yeah that's like a 1024 00:47:20,110 --> 00:47:18,410 variation of magneto hydrodynamics I 1025 00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:20,120 think which they've proven well yeah 1026 00:47:25,660 --> 00:47:23,510 submarine propulsion so there was one 1027 00:47:27,940 --> 00:47:25,670 there were two built as a matter of fact 1028 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:27,950 Stuart Way of Westinghouse there are 1029 00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,130 published papers I knew Stuart an 1030 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:32,720 electromagnetic submarine same basic 1031 00:47:37,270 --> 00:47:35,330 idea because sea water is an 1032 00:47:40,780 --> 00:47:37,280 electrically conducting fluid as is 1033 00:47:43,180 --> 00:47:40,790 ionized air so you asked a question I 1034 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:43,190 gave you an answer whether anybody's 1035 00:47:48,610 --> 00:47:46,010 doing anything I don't know they telling 1036 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:48,620 me man they might ask you a very quick 1037 00:47:55,090 --> 00:47:52,610 question here we had a guess just few 1038 00:47:58,330 --> 00:47:55,100 weeks ago he was looking into possible 1039 00:47:58,810 --> 00:47:58,340 propulsion systems for UFOs and he came 1040 00:48:01,450 --> 00:47:58,820 up with 1041 00:48:05,710 --> 00:48:01,460 something which it's not warp drive but 1042 00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:05,720 certainly a fascinating system well he 1043 00:48:10,810 --> 00:48:07,520 was talking about something that's sort 1044 00:48:13,570 --> 00:48:10,820 of analogous to what they call subspace 1045 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:13,580 or hyperspace not identical to a 1046 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:16,850 wormhole but I'm not sure if you've if 1047 00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:18,650 you're into the whole particle physics 1048 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:22,160 thing but the theory is that our 1049 00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:25,970 universe and another universe is 1050 00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:28,910 separated by a space a different kind of 1051 00:48:36,340 --> 00:48:31,280 space they call the bulk in which the 1052 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:36,350 gravitational constants are enough that 1053 00:48:42,220 --> 00:48:40,010 the math makes it work out to be that 1054 00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,230 stars that are say the nearest star 1055 00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:44,720 Proxima Centauri only works out to be 1056 00:48:50,650 --> 00:48:48,110 something like 25 miles and if you can 1057 00:48:52,930 --> 00:48:50,660 get into this space you can kind of 1058 00:48:55,810 --> 00:48:52,940 traverse this distance and then come 1059 00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:55,820 back out again in record time well 1060 00:49:00,370 --> 00:48:58,880 interesting science fiction all right is 1061 00:49:03,570 --> 00:49:00,380 there any science to support it 1062 00:49:05,980 --> 00:49:03,580 yeah it's theoretical of course and then 1063 00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:05,990 personally my reaction is pretty much 1064 00:49:15,220 --> 00:49:13,730 the same as yours when you're saying 1065 00:49:17,110 --> 00:49:15,230 that there was some people have got a 1066 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:17,120 project to actually figure out UFO 1067 00:49:21,220 --> 00:49:19,490 propulsion might want to mention that 1068 00:49:23,980 --> 00:49:21,230 you're probably aware of this Bigelow 1069 00:49:26,530 --> 00:49:23,990 was actually Bigelow Aerospace was 1070 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:26,540 hiring people to do exactly that at one 1071 00:49:32,170 --> 00:49:29,810 point and there was an application form 1072 00:49:35,380 --> 00:49:32,180 on the website I don't know whatever 1073 00:49:39,130 --> 00:49:35,390 became of that project I was the first 1074 00:49:42,220 --> 00:49:39,140 supported research on UFOs for big a 1075 00:49:43,690 --> 00:49:42,230 long time yeah really interesting okay 1076 00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,700 can you tell us you know I had a call 1077 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:45,440 from him didn't know who he was 1078 00:49:50,170 --> 00:49:48,170 any idea and he said he was interested 1079 00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:50,180 in the subject and he had some money and 1080 00:49:54,370 --> 00:49:52,640 that I have any ideas for a research 1081 00:49:57,340 --> 00:49:54,380 project because he knew that the field 1082 00:49:59,080 --> 00:49:57,350 needed research funding I said oh I got 1083 00:50:01,240 --> 00:49:59,090 a bunch of him well get back to me and 1084 00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:01,250 we'll see and so in a couple of days I 1085 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:03,920 cinema details I get paragraph each on 1086 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:07,370 10 different projects or so and he said 1087 00:50:13,090 --> 00:50:11,210 about too many pick one and I did and he 1088 00:50:15,070 --> 00:50:13,100 supported it 1089 00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:15,080 and we went out to the plains of san 1090 00:50:21,820 --> 00:50:18,310 agustin and checked on Roswell related 1091 00:50:25,660 --> 00:50:21,830 you know st. not directly Roswell so 1092 00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:25,670 much as planes of san agustin but and I 1093 00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:28,510 found Bob nice to work with them 1094 00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:30,800 everything he said he would do he did 1095 00:50:33,790 --> 00:50:33,110 when he said he would do it and that's 1096 00:50:37,630 --> 00:50:33,800 nice 1097 00:50:40,180 --> 00:50:37,640 frankly were you able to actually 1098 00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:40,190 perform any experiments in the lab or no 1099 00:50:46,210 --> 00:50:43,730 no no we were checking out what was 1100 00:50:49,900 --> 00:50:46,220 going what had gone on this is in the 1101 00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:49,910 early days this goes back and I'm saying 1102 00:50:53,290 --> 00:50:51,200 is piccolo has been around a long time 1103 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:53,300 he spent a lot of money and of course 1104 00:50:58,330 --> 00:50:56,450 his name came forward in this big 1105 00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:58,340 article in New York Times and you know 1106 00:51:02,830 --> 00:51:00,800 the press about that secret work that 1107 00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:02,840 was going on for what seven years right 1108 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:04,660 the advanced aerospace threat 1109 00:51:11,110 --> 00:51:07,970 identification program yeah yeah not a 1110 00:51:12,430 --> 00:51:11,120 great title yeah and Bob supposedly had 1111 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:12,440 a building which had all kinds of 1112 00:51:17,350 --> 00:51:14,770 hardware in it might be ufo-related 1113 00:51:18,490 --> 00:51:17,360 let's do our break here guys and because 1114 00:51:20,740 --> 00:51:18,500 I'm wired to ask you where were they 1115 00:51:23,620 --> 00:51:20,750 questioned the Bob Bigelow Stanton 1116 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:23,630 Friedman is giving up the lecture game 1117 00:51:28,330 --> 00:51:26,570 but not UFO investigation J Randall 1118 00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:28,340 Murphy our guest co-host I'm gene 1119 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,970 [Music] 1120 00:51:46,730 --> 00:51:42,900 thank you for listening to GCN 1121 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:46,740 be sure to visit GCN live.com today 1122 00:51:50,940 --> 00:51:49,210 attack of the rockets has been 1123 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:50,950 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device 1165 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:36,880 that creates the illusion someone inside 1166 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:39,370 is watching TV even with your miles away 1167 00:53:44,550 --> 00:53:42,250 security is a mindset and fake TV should 1168 00:53:52,350 --> 00:53:44,560 be part of your security solution be 1169 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,730 [Music] 1170 00:54:03,770 --> 00:53:59,460 welcome back to the para cast the gold 1171 00:54:12,990 --> 00:54:03,780 standard of paranormal radio and now 1172 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:13,000 here's Jane Steinberg Stan one ask you a 1173 00:54:19,980 --> 00:54:16,090 quick question the news about this 1174 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:19,990 recent Pentagon UFO study that was I 1175 00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:21,850 guess partly arranged by a former 1176 00:54:26,220 --> 00:54:23,470 senator how are you read when it was 1177 00:54:28,410 --> 00:54:26,230 Senate Majority Leader 22 million 1178 00:54:31,110 --> 00:54:28,420 dollars I guess boo all or most of it 1179 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:31,120 got into the hands of Bigelow in the 1180 00:54:35,930 --> 00:54:34,450 early 2000 yeah there are other people 1181 00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:35,940 involved I was very impressed with the 1182 00:54:43,140 --> 00:54:39,280 list of people like Elizondo and most 1183 00:54:46,020 --> 00:54:43,150 guys these guys had important titles but 1184 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:46,030 they were people who had high-level 1185 00:54:49,710 --> 00:54:47,650 clearances and significant 1186 00:54:52,290 --> 00:54:49,720 responsibilities they weren't Dinks I 1187 00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:52,300 was impressed yeah and like you were 1188 00:54:58,260 --> 00:54:54,160 saying these are the kind of people who 1189 00:55:01,410 --> 00:54:58,270 were actually using military equipment 1190 00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:01,420 to try to assess whether or not UFOs 1191 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:03,730 did have the kind of threat to national 1192 00:55:08,610 --> 00:55:06,130 security that you mentioned earlier well 1193 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:08,620 that should be their function anybody 1194 00:55:12,060 --> 00:55:10,090 who thinks we shouldn't care about what 1195 00:55:15,570 --> 00:55:12,070 people are doing out there and the way 1196 00:55:16,410 --> 00:55:15,580 in new technology is wrong we dangerous 1197 00:55:19,020 --> 00:55:16,420 world 1198 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:19,030 that's the way it is folks like it or 1199 00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:23,530 not and you know are motivated our first 1200 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:26,440 spy satellite the corona spy satellite 1201 00:55:31,740 --> 00:55:28,930 this is after the u2 we knew it was 1202 00:55:34,590 --> 00:55:31,750 going to get shot down some point so 1203 00:55:38,190 --> 00:55:34,600 I've got to do something better and the 1204 00:55:38,660 --> 00:55:38,200 corona satellite they had 12 failures in 1205 00:55:41,150 --> 00:55:38,670 a row 1206 00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:41,160 and they persisted they spent the dough 1207 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:44,609 this is classified stuff and the 13th 1208 00:55:48,349 --> 00:55:46,890 one worked and got more data and Soviet 1209 00:55:49,849 --> 00:55:48,359 military installations because the 1210 00:55:52,970 --> 00:55:49,859 satellites going round and round and 1211 00:55:55,250 --> 00:55:52,980 round and sending back lots of data got 1212 00:55:58,099 --> 00:55:55,260 more data than all the u2 flights had 1213 00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,109 done before that the program went on for 1214 00:56:03,289 --> 00:56:00,480 a number of years and was never 1215 00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:03,299 declassified while it was going on not 1216 00:56:09,339 --> 00:56:06,000 until much later so there was a program 1217 00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:09,349 that was certainly done to undercover 1218 00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:12,240 with a good deal of money I don't know 1219 00:56:18,039 --> 00:56:15,049 how much but it was you don't have 12 1220 00:56:22,460 --> 00:56:18,049 unsuccessful rocket launches at no cost 1221 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:22,470 and then sending back data for years and 1222 00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:24,930 having the data analyzed all the rest of 1223 00:56:30,410 --> 00:56:28,049 that and so and the public didn't hear 1224 00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:30,420 at all about it while the program was 1225 00:56:34,519 --> 00:56:32,910 ongoing this is an illustration of 1226 00:56:37,789 --> 00:56:34,529 keeping secrets it's like the stealth 1227 00:56:41,539 --> 00:56:37,799 program for like eight ten years ten 1228 00:56:44,029 --> 00:56:41,549 billion dollars all in secret well then 1229 00:56:45,740 --> 00:56:44,039 of course you know that's one of the 1230 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:45,750 favorite arguments of the skeptics well 1231 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:47,490 you know the government can't keep 1232 00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:50,250 secrets and then it and you make it up 1233 00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:52,079 you keep it perfectly valid point there 1234 00:56:57,259 --> 00:56:54,569 that they can and and we should also 1235 00:56:59,120 --> 00:56:57,269 point out well what secret how many 1236 00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:59,130 people in the government have come out I 1237 00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:01,200 mean you alluded back at the beginning 1238 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:02,609 that one of the books that got you 1239 00:57:06,410 --> 00:57:04,650 involved was the report an unidentified 1240 00:57:10,249 --> 00:57:06,420 flying objects I believe you mentioned 1241 00:57:12,529 --> 00:57:10,259 this in the past fabulous yeah and what 1242 00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:12,539 was he right he was a genuine Air Force 1243 00:57:19,579 --> 00:57:15,569 officer who worked inside a secret 1244 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:19,589 program to investigate UFOs for the Air 1245 00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:22,650 Force if you don't call that leaking the 1246 00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:25,440 secret item I'm not sure what you do and 1247 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:27,089 what's not like he's the only one who's 1248 00:57:31,849 --> 00:57:29,250 come forward again this most recent one 1249 00:57:33,859 --> 00:57:31,859 is another example and Kehoe he had 1250 00:57:36,349 --> 00:57:33,869 insiders as well he wrote about that in 1251 00:57:37,999 --> 00:57:36,359 his book so it's not like they have kept 1252 00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:38,009 a secret there's been plenty of leaks 1253 00:57:43,819 --> 00:57:40,799 over the years but the media hasn't paid 1254 00:57:45,620 --> 00:57:43,829 attention for the most part but that's 1255 00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:45,630 changing have you noticed the change in 1256 00:57:52,310 --> 00:57:48,720 your media yeah yeah no that's it good 1257 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:52,320 thing yes I'm all for it I'm not saying 1258 00:57:56,060 --> 00:57:54,690 thing should be done in the open because 1259 00:57:58,190 --> 00:57:56,070 you don't want to give your enemies but 1260 00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:58,200 potential means renewed technology to 1261 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:00,480 destroy it that makes no sense 1262 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:02,970 if we're working on wreckage from a 1263 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:05,010 crash flying saucers and learn some 1264 00:58:10,820 --> 00:58:08,850 things people have pointed out that some 1265 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:10,830 of the new and better superconducting 1266 00:58:15,770 --> 00:58:12,930 materials were developed at 1267 00:58:18,550 --> 00:58:15,780 wright-patterson Air Force Base right 1268 00:58:21,950 --> 00:58:18,560 after Roswell hmm 1269 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:21,960 yeah I don't know about all that Corso 1270 00:58:27,410 --> 00:58:24,930 stuff but I gotta admit that if we have 1271 00:58:29,450 --> 00:58:27,420 any solution to the UFO repulsion 1272 00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:29,460 problem it's going to involve things 1273 00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:32,310 like superconductors and super 1274 00:58:37,010 --> 00:58:34,110 conducting electromagnetic storage 1275 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:37,020 systems powered by things like you say 1276 00:58:42,610 --> 00:58:39,450 like fusion power that's the direction 1277 00:58:45,590 --> 00:58:42,620 we need to go sure I'm not a booster of 1278 00:58:46,970 --> 00:58:45,600 Colonel Corso incidentally he claimed to 1279 00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:46,980 be a member of the National Security 1280 00:58:50,300 --> 00:58:48,960 Council they never even attended a 1281 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:50,310 meeting though that's being a member 1282 00:58:55,970 --> 00:58:52,650 well you have people who are in Congress 1283 00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:55,980 don't show up except they have to make a 1284 00:58:59,930 --> 00:58:58,170 vote you have I wonder about some of 1285 00:59:02,600 --> 00:58:59,940 those cabinet secretaries who are 1286 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:02,610 overseas with their wives using 1287 00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:03,930 government money to pay for the 1288 00:59:14,980 --> 00:59:12,510 transportation so that's not unusual but 1289 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:14,990 what about this so-called 1290 00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:17,730 reverse-engineered stuff do you think if 1291 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:20,910 we captured a spaceship at Roswell 1292 00:59:25,460 --> 00:59:23,370 would you think at this point that we 1293 00:59:28,490 --> 00:59:25,470 have possibly come up with some 1294 00:59:31,340 --> 00:59:28,500 technology that at least is somewhat 1295 00:59:33,470 --> 00:59:31,350 based on what the aliens did or were 1296 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:33,480 they or are they too far advanced 1297 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:35,810 firstly I'd say they're too far advanced 1298 00:59:40,130 --> 00:59:38,370 we've learned a heck of a lot but you 1299 00:59:42,550 --> 00:59:40,140 got only have to look back to see how 1300 00:59:47,570 --> 00:59:42,560 far there is to go in the sense that 1301 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:47,580 changes new technology my basic mantra 1302 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:49,890 is a technological progress comes from 1303 00:59:54,530 --> 00:59:51,810 doing things differently in an 1304 00:59:56,330 --> 00:59:54,540 unpredictable way the scientific 1305 00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:56,340 community is so often neglect that 1306 01:00:01,160 --> 00:59:59,520 simple truth I mean you know I use a 1307 01:00:03,350 --> 01:00:01,170 slide rule when I started working 1308 01:00:04,550 --> 01:00:03,360 industry many people never heard of a 1309 01:00:05,410 --> 01:00:04,560 slide rule they use a little pocket 1310 01:00:07,450 --> 01:00:05,420 calculator 1311 01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:07,460 cost five bucks you can do all the 1312 01:00:11,289 --> 01:00:08,720 calculation you could do in the slide 1313 01:00:13,870 --> 01:00:11,299 rule yeah what's this one rule no it's a 1314 01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:13,880 device that makes calculations but not 1315 01:00:20,710 --> 01:00:16,609 nearly as good as a technological one at 1316 01:00:24,460 --> 01:00:20,720 an electrical electronic one so there's 1317 01:00:26,380 --> 01:00:24,470 plenty to learn yet and you know when we 1318 01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:26,390 finally got around in recent years 1319 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:28,609 understanding something that man has 1320 01:00:34,450 --> 01:00:31,970 been around a very long time well it's 1321 01:00:35,730 --> 01:00:34,460 true Stan I mean when you look at how 1322 01:00:38,890 --> 01:00:35,740 far we've come 1323 01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:38,900 how he was answering it okay never mind 1324 01:00:46,809 --> 01:00:44,720 yes I'm saying that we've come around to 1325 01:00:51,099 --> 01:00:46,819 a whole new view of our place in the 1326 01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:51,109 universe Bishop Ussher I was thinking 1327 01:00:59,370 --> 01:00:54,160 back and and how old the mankind is 1328 01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:04,690 the bishop our server in the 1650s or so 1329 01:01:09,819 --> 01:01:08,240 figured out he was a sex fiend he went 1330 01:01:12,339 --> 01:01:09,829 through all the big adding in the Bible 1331 01:01:18,849 --> 01:01:12,349 and came back with the fact that man 1332 01:01:21,370 --> 01:01:18,859 started 4004 BC now we have to say oh it 1333 01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:21,380 was four billion for actually 1334 01:01:27,099 --> 01:01:24,559 four-and-a-half billion but you know so 1335 01:01:29,980 --> 01:01:27,109 our understanding has changed Frank 1336 01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:29,990 Drake in the 1960s said there might be 1337 01:01:34,210 --> 01:01:32,569 as many as six thousand places in the 1338 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:34,220 galaxy that could be sending us signals 1339 01:01:45,130 --> 01:01:37,690 I don't know why or anything like that 1340 01:01:47,289 --> 01:01:45,140 but now when we've got the the typing of 1341 01:01:49,660 --> 01:01:47,299 the name of the Kepler space satellite 1342 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:49,670 which is looking for planets looking at 1343 01:01:54,370 --> 01:01:51,530 a very restricted part of the sky and 1344 01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:54,380 going back and forth catching the planet 1345 01:02:00,150 --> 01:01:57,440 going in front of its star the Kepler 1346 01:02:03,569 --> 01:02:00,160 has indicated that there are about 1.6 1347 01:02:05,890 --> 01:02:03,579 planets per star in the neighborhood 1348 01:02:07,470 --> 01:02:05,900 within a hundred light-years of here 1349 01:02:12,910 --> 01:02:07,480 which is just down the street 1350 01:02:16,410 --> 01:02:12,920 even from the Rosary there are 10,000 1351 01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:16,420 stars that means about 16,000 planets 1352 01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:19,280 and I'm not saying they're all occupy 1353 01:02:25,420 --> 01:02:21,710 some of there of course is colonization 1354 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:25,430 of migration but our view of the galaxy 1355 01:02:33,130 --> 01:02:27,530 alone the Milky Way guy there's no 1356 01:02:34,540 --> 01:02:33,140 router beam planets that's 6,000 so it 1357 01:02:36,130 --> 01:02:34,550 wouldn't be surprising if there are guys 1358 01:02:39,070 --> 01:02:36,140 traipsing about and trying to make sure 1359 01:02:41,980 --> 01:02:39,080 that idiot civilizations like ours who 1360 01:02:43,570 --> 01:02:41,990 have developed nuclear weapons don't 1361 01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:43,580 bring them out to bother the 1362 01:02:48,250 --> 01:02:46,640 neighborhood of course then again you 1363 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:48,260 know we are kind of out here in the 1364 01:02:52,650 --> 01:02:50,690 boonies compared to those any 1365 01:02:58,630 --> 01:02:52,660 civilizations that are closer together 1366 01:03:00,190 --> 01:02:58,640 so in practical terms of course the 1367 01:03:02,260 --> 01:03:00,200 skeptics this is their favorite argument 1368 01:03:06,340 --> 01:03:02,270 well it would take them way too long to 1369 01:03:08,140 --> 01:03:06,350 get here there and and there's a number 1370 01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:08,150 of ways that we can look at that that 1371 01:03:12,490 --> 01:03:10,310 nullifies that argument not least well 1372 01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:12,500 let me give you an example houses no 1373 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:16,510 headaches at 1 G acceleration of gravity 1374 01:03:20,350 --> 01:03:19,250 where we are right now on the surface of 1375 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:20,360 the earth through that's where I am 1376 01:03:26,830 --> 01:03:23,330 anyway you guys maybe up in the air but 1377 01:03:28,660 --> 01:03:26,840 at 1 T I've asked audiences including 1378 01:03:31,210 --> 01:03:28,670 technical groups how long has it taken 1379 01:03:34,630 --> 01:03:31,220 1g to get to the speed of light we're to 1380 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:34,640 come with Stan Friedman gene and Randall 1381 01:03:49,810 --> 01:03:46,830 [Music] 1382 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:49,820 neighbors we've made such a deal with 1383 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:52,730 hellofresh and it means that everyone 1384 01:03:58,870 --> 01:03:56,090 listening to this show can receive $30 1385 01:04:01,599 --> 01:03:58,880 off your first week of deliveries when 1386 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Friedman think about your 1500 01:09:26,940 --> 01:09:22,950 she's only gone with me on the trip so I 1501 01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:26,950 guess Hawaii in Las Vegas no in 1502 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:29,920 Washington DC 3 I'm sorry and I've given 1503 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:32,530 over 700 lectures so she's not 1504 01:09:37,170 --> 01:09:34,210 particularly interested she comes from a 1505 01:09:39,930 --> 01:09:37,180 big family she's got she had four 1506 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:39,940 sisters and four brothers and they all 1507 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:42,370 have kids you know nieces nephews her 1508 01:09:48,090 --> 01:09:44,290 parents were alive all the rest of that 1509 01:09:51,530 --> 01:09:48,100 so she rarely got involved at all in my 1510 01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:51,540 you for logical activities well kids 1511 01:09:59,070 --> 01:09:55,840 I've lost two sons both deceased and 1512 01:10:00,000 --> 01:09:59,080 they were both interested one was very 1513 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:00,010 pleased 1514 01:10:04,650 --> 01:10:01,810 he worked at El Camino College in 1515 01:10:06,780 --> 01:10:04,660 Southern California and warned me that 1516 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:06,790 we don't get big crowds of lectures dad 1517 01:10:09,330 --> 01:10:07,690 I'm sorry 1518 01:10:11,220 --> 01:10:09,340 and they had open up 1519 01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:11,230 they had a big auditorium they had to 1520 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:14,320 open up the balcony and so they had 1200 1521 01:10:18,839 --> 01:10:17,050 people and he was delighted because he 1522 01:10:19,589 --> 01:10:18,849 didn't have to make apologies you know 1523 01:10:21,390 --> 01:10:19,599 what I mean 1524 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:21,400 that must have been one of the other 1525 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:23,489 highlights in your career I would say 1526 01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:27,730 well my other son he attended several 1527 01:10:34,620 --> 01:10:32,110 lectures and sold books for me so they 1528 01:10:36,899 --> 01:10:34,630 were proud and I was pleased about that 1529 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:36,909 my daughter is a journalist she's 1530 01:10:41,399 --> 01:10:39,449 younger than they were and she is 1531 01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:41,409 interested she'll be coming to my 1532 01:10:45,839 --> 01:10:43,360 lecture in Halifax where Paula Kimball 1533 01:10:48,300 --> 01:10:45,849 will be present as a matter of fact 1534 01:10:50,220 --> 01:10:48,310 well that that brings up an another 1535 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:50,230 question from our forum people from 1536 01:10:54,750 --> 01:10:53,050 Ethel who says mr. Friedman I've long 1537 01:10:57,510 --> 01:10:54,760 admired your work in wish you a very 1538 01:11:00,089 --> 01:10:57,520 happy richly deserved an extended 1539 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:00,099 retirement from this crazy field of 1540 01:11:04,530 --> 01:11:03,010 research and asks who if anybody do you 1541 01:11:06,629 --> 01:11:04,540 see as an heir apparent do you think 1542 01:11:09,810 --> 01:11:06,639 your daughter might be interested in 1543 01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:09,820 taking this up no no she's a journalist 1544 01:11:14,879 --> 01:11:12,400 and she works for CBC Radio and out of 1545 01:11:17,220 --> 01:11:14,889 action so there are some good people in 1546 01:11:19,890 --> 01:11:17,230 the field one of them is John Greenwald 1547 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:19,900 green wild yeah for sure black dollars 1548 01:11:25,169 --> 01:11:23,050 I've got the black fault yes and I've 1549 01:11:28,500 --> 01:11:25,179 known John since he was I think 16 1550 01:11:30,570 --> 01:11:28,510 something like huh and he got so many 1551 01:11:32,220 --> 01:11:30,580 documents from the government you know 1552 01:11:34,109 --> 01:11:32,230 under Freedom of Information and stuff 1553 01:11:38,370 --> 01:11:34,119 and very objective and careful 1554 01:11:42,450 --> 01:11:38,380 researcher so I hereby dumb him Stan 1555 01:11:45,930 --> 01:11:42,460 Freeman ii know well I'm sure he'd be 1556 01:11:48,990 --> 01:11:45,940 very impressed to hear that so he's a 1557 01:11:51,209 --> 01:11:49,000 good man and an honest man in a 1558 01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:51,219 competent man and a hard-working guy and 1559 01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:54,790 so with the energy of youth they're 1560 01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:57,280 playing a good people in the field we go 1561 01:12:02,430 --> 01:11:59,920 ups and downs and you have you for 1562 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:02,440 logical research and I hear some good 1563 01:12:08,250 --> 01:12:06,489 talks at lectures and look my colleague 1564 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:08,260 Kathleen Martin has written three books 1565 01:12:15,419 --> 01:12:11,290 with me and she's working on two more 1566 01:12:17,180 --> 01:12:15,429 and I just been reading one big long 1567 01:12:19,340 --> 01:12:17,190 chapter she's written 1568 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:19,350 I'm very impressed with the quality of 1569 01:12:25,550 --> 01:12:22,530 the work the experiencer they've done a 1570 01:12:27,979 --> 01:12:25,560 survey hundreds of experiencers he'll fo 1571 01:12:30,530 --> 01:12:27,989 experiencers and put together a lot of 1572 01:12:32,270 --> 01:12:30,540 data and and with control people you 1573 01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:32,280 know people who weren't experiencers you 1574 01:12:37,580 --> 01:12:34,080 see how different the answers are and so 1575 01:12:39,860 --> 01:12:37,590 forth and so she's still going strong 1576 01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:39,870 she's Betty Hills nice that's 1577 01:12:43,670 --> 01:12:42,000 interesting of that Court leads us to 1578 01:12:47,810 --> 01:12:43,680 another question by one of our foreign 1579 01:12:50,330 --> 01:12:47,820 people called TDS our and he asks do you 1580 01:12:51,770 --> 01:12:50,340 see reorganizing of resources which 1581 01:12:54,290 --> 01:12:51,780 would be more efficient and productive 1582 01:12:57,620 --> 01:12:54,300 moving forward in name of pinning down 1583 01:13:00,740 --> 01:12:57,630 fact from fiction and in this regard do 1584 01:13:03,500 --> 01:13:00,750 you think that experiencers are more the 1585 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:03,510 key now than empirical data in other 1586 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:05,610 words we've typically taken the approach 1587 01:13:09,260 --> 01:13:07,530 of well let's see if these things are 1588 01:13:10,729 --> 01:13:09,270 nuts and bolts let's figure out what 1589 01:13:12,170 --> 01:13:10,739 they're made of how they work how big 1590 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:12,180 they are measure them weigh them and 1591 01:13:18,620 --> 01:13:16,290 we've let the human experience or sight 1592 01:13:20,150 --> 01:13:18,630 of this kind of we've left it off to the 1593 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:20,160 side of it because we're they're nervous 1594 01:13:26,090 --> 01:13:21,810 about it or we think it holds too much 1595 01:13:28,689 --> 01:13:26,100 subjective right Cathy's work as an 1596 01:13:31,070 --> 01:13:28,699 organization free it's called and 1597 01:13:33,170 --> 01:13:31,080 they've done some great work and looking 1598 01:13:36,260 --> 01:13:33,180 at what the experiences can tell us 1599 01:13:38,510 --> 01:13:36,270 that's quite fascinating how they look 1600 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:38,520 at daily ins and their own experiences 1601 01:13:43,610 --> 01:13:41,489 and there are plenty of people who have 1602 01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:43,620 had experiences and if we lift the 1603 01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:45,360 laughter carton we'll be hearing a lot 1604 01:13:50,290 --> 01:13:47,520 more about them I'm curious about you 1605 01:13:53,630 --> 01:13:50,300 because as a scientist you you're a very 1606 01:13:56,750 --> 01:13:53,640 data person you said these numerous 1607 01:13:59,750 --> 01:13:56,760 times in your and so this is very sort 1608 01:14:01,670 --> 01:13:59,760 of uncharacteristic of you to take on 1609 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:01,680 this point of view what is it that's 1610 01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:05,610 piqued your interest or made you take it 1611 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:08,489 so much more seriously these days well 1612 01:14:14,930 --> 01:14:12,330 I'm always but I mean the exam is there 1613 01:14:16,910 --> 01:14:14,940 side of things specifically well because 1614 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:16,920 we've got more data from experiences 1615 01:14:21,650 --> 01:14:19,290 they were normally very bloats the time 1616 01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:21,660 about their experience but Kathy and 1617 01:14:26,810 --> 01:14:23,760 others have gotten them to come forth 1618 01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:26,820 and so we got a body of data that we did 1619 01:14:30,830 --> 01:14:29,910 have before about what happens with the 1620 01:14:34,010 --> 01:14:30,840 aliens 1621 01:14:36,170 --> 01:14:34,020 something to work on we didn't have that 1622 01:14:37,820 --> 01:14:36,180 before how do you find it darn people 1623 01:14:40,430 --> 01:14:37,830 nobody wants to come for and say oh yeah 1624 01:14:42,980 --> 01:14:40,440 I was on board to saucer big deal you'd 1625 01:14:46,420 --> 01:14:42,990 get left out of town you had people like 1626 01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:46,430 Hawkins he'll even our thing I mean no 1627 01:14:57,830 --> 01:14:55,110 Hopkins Budd Hopkins okay remember but 1628 01:14:59,690 --> 01:14:57,840 was an artist a good one I don't mean 1629 01:15:01,730 --> 01:14:59,700 that and that's not not going to did a 1630 01:15:04,220 --> 01:15:01,740 lot of good research but that's 1631 01:15:07,700 --> 01:15:04,230 different from forms of Stephen Hawking 1632 01:15:11,090 --> 01:15:07,710 yes completely different and differing 1633 01:15:13,670 --> 01:15:11,100 also but was instrumental in getting 1634 01:15:16,670 --> 01:15:13,680 people to come forward as he talked to a 1635 01:15:20,480 --> 01:15:16,680 lot of abductees and he learned how to 1636 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:20,490 use hypnosis and so forth and so he 1637 01:15:25,220 --> 01:15:23,130 started the experience or movement if 1638 01:15:27,530 --> 01:15:25,230 you will so that people would have 1639 01:15:30,500 --> 01:15:27,540 somebody to talk to so their information 1640 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:30,510 wouldn't be lost because we're telling 1641 01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:32,130 our personal experiences here in other 1642 01:15:38,270 --> 01:15:34,560 words we don't have government employees 1643 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:38,280 going on board the the trips and talking 1644 01:15:43,460 --> 01:15:40,890 to the deck door and the abductee and 1645 01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:43,470 coming to terms with that that's a whole 1646 01:15:49,370 --> 01:15:46,560 other question yeah we I mean we can get 1647 01:15:51,350 --> 01:15:49,380 to the whole government sending people 1648 01:15:54,230 --> 01:15:51,360 to other planets I guess in another 1649 01:15:57,770 --> 01:15:54,240 question but then we've also got people 1650 01:15:59,450 --> 01:15:57,780 like John Mack who are what I think he 1651 01:16:02,810 --> 01:15:59,460 was instrumental in bringing some sort 1652 01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:02,820 of respectability yeah she was I mean 1653 01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:04,560 with his Harvard background and all that 1654 01:16:10,250 --> 01:16:05,280 sort of stuff 1655 01:16:11,690 --> 01:16:10,260 yes and John had guts we spoke at some 1656 01:16:14,510 --> 01:16:11,700 of the same conferences as a matter of 1657 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:14,520 fact good man I'm lucky I'm still here 1658 01:16:19,310 --> 01:16:17,250 he's not so in another question 1659 01:16:22,610 --> 01:16:19,320 TDS our house what do you see is the 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01:22:25,730 --> 01:22:22,950 on the other hand we have to stand up 1799 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:25,740 and realize that there are living 1800 01:22:31,190 --> 01:22:28,370 intelligent beings all over the place 1801 01:22:34,190 --> 01:22:31,200 we're not the only ones nor the most 1802 01:22:35,480 --> 01:22:34,200 advanced ones and hopefully some of them 1803 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:35,490 have learned how to live at peace with 1804 01:22:38,630 --> 01:22:36,330 each other 1805 01:22:40,580 --> 01:22:38,640 I mean what's our military budget this 1806 01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:40,590 year on planet Earth a trillion dollars 1807 01:22:45,380 --> 01:22:43,440 is less I heard there better ways to 1808 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:45,390 spend our money than that you know feed 1809 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:47,250 the starving there's still people dying 1810 01:22:53,690 --> 01:22:49,770 a starvation on the planet develop cures 1811 01:22:56,510 --> 01:22:53,700 for other diseases all kinds of good 1812 01:23:00,050 --> 01:22:56,520 things so it's a question of growing up 1813 01:23:01,950 --> 01:23:00,060 and putting what we can learn to good 1814 01:23:05,940 --> 01:23:01,960 use for the benefit of mankind 1815 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:05,950 you know each side starts during nuclear 1816 01:23:10,709 --> 01:23:08,410 weapons so they can if necessary use 1817 01:23:13,170 --> 01:23:10,719 them against the other hello will waste 1818 01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:13,180 their resources as far as I'm concerned 1819 01:23:20,850 --> 01:23:17,110 and also I think we have taken potshots 1820 01:23:24,150 --> 01:23:20,860 at alien vehicles we made a very 1821 01:23:27,930 --> 01:23:24,160 unfriendly situation I think we need to 1822 01:23:29,580 --> 01:23:27,940 open up about that and you know you want 1823 01:23:33,950 --> 01:23:29,590 to guys want to fly around here and do 1824 01:23:38,490 --> 01:23:36,690 there's some pragmatic things because we 1825 01:23:40,350 --> 01:23:38,500 can't control when one comes down and 1826 01:23:43,590 --> 01:23:40,360 there happens to be somebody there we'd 1827 01:23:45,180 --> 01:23:43,600 like to know about it uh you know we 1828 01:23:47,940 --> 01:23:45,190 need a movement we also have to 1829 01:23:49,250 --> 01:23:47,950 seriously consider what does it mean for 1830 01:23:52,050 --> 01:23:49,260 religion there are some people who think 1831 01:23:54,570 --> 01:23:52,060 God's only handiwork is man on this 1832 01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:54,580 planet and that's it ain't nobody out 1833 01:24:02,040 --> 01:23:57,610 there anywhere else well I think that's 1834 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:02,050 malarkey myself I think that that needs 1835 01:24:08,250 --> 01:24:04,930 to be talked about why do you think that 1836 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:08,260 they don't openly reveal themselves then 1837 01:24:14,850 --> 01:24:11,770 because I mean that if they have an 1838 01:24:17,250 --> 01:24:14,860 interest in wanting to keep us say in 1839 01:24:18,990 --> 01:24:17,260 our place or whatever it is I mean you 1840 01:24:22,140 --> 01:24:19,000 would think that they would want to make 1841 01:24:25,020 --> 01:24:22,150 it certain that we know that they're 1842 01:24:26,910 --> 01:24:25,030 here and then you don't have to worry 1843 01:24:28,820 --> 01:24:26,920 about these issues where maybe one 1844 01:24:32,250 --> 01:24:28,830 nation has some secrets or another 1845 01:24:34,590 --> 01:24:32,260 everybody knows they're there and they 1846 01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:34,600 can make whatever agenda they want us to 1847 01:24:39,060 --> 01:24:36,400 know perfectly clear without all that 1848 01:24:40,709 --> 01:24:39,070 sort of cloak and dagger and theatrics 1849 01:24:42,660 --> 01:24:40,719 that seems to go on with them maybe 1850 01:24:45,330 --> 01:24:42,670 there are rules in a Galactic Federation 1851 01:24:48,420 --> 01:24:45,340 that prevent them from interfering in a 1852 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:48,430 loud way except they keep us from going 1853 01:24:53,220 --> 01:24:50,290 out there with our brand of friendship 1854 01:24:56,700 --> 01:24:53,230 which is hostility the galaxy certainly 1855 01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:56,710 has a concern there her things are going 1856 01:25:05,340 --> 01:24:58,960 to come out and be predators one needs 1857 01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:05,350 that you know we're not nice you would 1858 01:25:09,570 --> 01:25:07,840 think that they would would then they'd 1859 01:25:11,970 --> 01:25:09,580 want to make it known in no uncertain 1860 01:25:13,950 --> 01:25:11,980 terms like in a day the earth stood 1861 01:25:17,820 --> 01:25:13,960 still sure they know 1862 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:17,830 we know they're here yes I mean you've 1863 01:25:23,580 --> 01:25:21,250 been tracked on radar etc of course so 1864 01:25:25,740 --> 01:25:23,590 the military must know ok so I think you 1865 01:25:28,740 --> 01:25:25,750 know and I and most people who are 1866 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:28,750 educated in ufology we no longer doubt 1867 01:25:35,580 --> 01:25:31,210 that aliens have visited the planet and 1868 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:35,590 that the military and factions within 1869 01:25:39,780 --> 01:25:37,570 the military perhaps their stove-piped 1870 01:25:41,580 --> 01:25:39,790 to a certain degree but you've got a 1871 01:25:43,610 --> 01:25:41,590 number of groups they can't help but 1872 01:25:49,770 --> 01:25:43,620 don't a whole lot more than we do about 1873 01:25:51,660 --> 01:25:49,780 would you say that you were actually 1874 01:25:53,070 --> 01:25:51,670 before one of the breaks you were going 1875 01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:53,080 on and you were going to explain about 1876 01:25:56,370 --> 01:25:54,880 how they could get here from there and 1877 01:25:58,800 --> 01:25:56,380 we're talking about how long it would 1878 01:26:03,420 --> 01:25:58,810 get to the speed of light ice and just 1879 01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:03,430 as an example to say 1g surprise I've 1880 01:26:08,729 --> 01:26:06,400 had people guess and many of them gets a 1881 01:26:13,340 --> 01:26:08,739 thousand years it's a hundred a thousand 1882 01:26:17,370 --> 01:26:13,350 110 or one the right answer is one yeah 1883 01:26:19,050 --> 01:26:17,380 many people I think most people who 1884 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:19,060 didn't sort of understand how that would 1885 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:21,370 work but also what they want half an 1886 01:26:25,500 --> 01:26:24,130 Einstein remember I'm Stein also said as 1887 01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:25,510 you get close the speed of light time 1888 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:27,520 slows down for things moving that fast 1889 01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:29,410 how much depends on how close you get 1890 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:34,480 but the big accelerator in Europe we got 1891 01:26:41,190 --> 01:26:39,250 particles going 99.9999% of the speed of 1892 01:26:45,690 --> 01:26:41,200 light so that's a roam we have some 1893 01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:45,700 dealings with so in other words you want 1894 01:26:51,620 --> 01:26:48,370 to go 37 light-years that mean the 1895 01:26:54,150 --> 01:26:51,630 minimum time to get there is 37 years 1896 01:26:55,500 --> 01:26:54,160 you gotta go the speed of light etc no 1897 01:26:59,160 --> 01:26:55,510 it doesn't mean that I'm talking about 1898 01:27:01,080 --> 01:26:59,170 pilot time is what matters so you go out 1899 01:27:03,570 --> 01:27:01,090 come back marry your granddaughters best 1900 01:27:05,910 --> 01:27:03,580 friend what the hell yeah and then of 1901 01:27:08,490 --> 01:27:05,920 course that assumes you know that they 1902 01:27:10,170 --> 01:27:08,500 don't have lifespans that are longer 1903 01:27:12,330 --> 01:27:10,180 than ours I mean for all we know they 1904 01:27:16,620 --> 01:27:12,340 are immortal and they can just drift 1905 01:27:18,510 --> 01:27:16,630 around space at half light speed and to 1906 01:27:20,490 --> 01:27:18,520 their heart's content I mean there's all 1907 01:27:23,670 --> 01:27:20,500 sorts of reasons why they could be 1908 01:27:27,670 --> 01:27:23,680 coming here say even in within 20 light 1909 01:27:29,950 --> 01:27:27,680 years there's dozens of planets at half 1910 01:27:34,630 --> 01:27:29,960 speed that means even in our lifetime we 1911 01:27:37,480 --> 01:27:34,640 could build a ship to get there so let's 1912 01:27:40,450 --> 01:27:37,490 go let's go close to the speed of light 1913 01:27:42,610 --> 01:27:40,460 and take advantage of time slowing down 1914 01:27:44,650 --> 01:27:42,620 of course I said that a hundred years 1915 01:27:48,010 --> 01:27:44,660 ago somebody say you're crazy what are 1916 01:27:50,020 --> 01:27:48,020 you talking about well that's the way 1917 01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:50,030 life is we have to take that into 1918 01:27:54,220 --> 01:27:51,650 account at the big accelerator as a 1919 01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:54,230 matter of fact there's a real world and 1920 01:27:59,640 --> 01:27:57,370 there's the way we wish it was I guess 1921 01:28:05,560 --> 01:27:59,650 let me ask you something here we're 1922 01:28:08,290 --> 01:28:05,570 assuming that 80 having become advanced 1923 01:28:11,410 --> 01:28:08,300 enough to perfect in some form of star 1924 01:28:12,810 --> 01:28:11,420 travel is necessarily morally superior 1925 01:28:15,970 --> 01:28:12,820 to earthlings 1926 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:15,980 but why so they could just be as crazy 1927 01:28:22,930 --> 01:28:19,730 as we are as more like as we are and 1928 01:28:25,060 --> 01:28:22,940 maybe they think we're too primitive to 1929 01:28:27,790 --> 01:28:25,070 bother with if we were farther advanced 1930 01:28:30,820 --> 01:28:27,800 they may decide to do something here - 1931 01:28:32,770 --> 01:28:30,830 that's not very friendly well I think 1932 01:28:35,310 --> 01:28:32,780 they paid a lot of attention to our 1933 01:28:38,380 --> 01:28:35,320 nuclear facilities 1934 01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:38,390 you know Bob Salas has written a book he 1935 01:28:43,690 --> 01:28:41,410 was a down at the bottom of the ICBM 1936 01:28:45,790 --> 01:28:43,700 place where we had Rockets with 1937 01:28:49,150 --> 01:28:45,800 nuclear-tipped missiles I mean nuclear 1938 01:28:52,090 --> 01:28:49,160 ships Rockets and they've been paying 1939 01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:52,100 attention to these so I'm not if they 1940 01:28:56,530 --> 01:28:53,930 were really bad guys they wouldn't be 1941 01:29:00,160 --> 01:28:56,540 here they've had plenty of chance to 1942 01:29:02,860 --> 01:29:00,170 clobber us so I have to presume that 1943 01:29:03,910 --> 01:29:02,870 they're at least halfway decent and they 1944 01:29:05,740 --> 01:29:03,920 don't shoot first and ask questions 1945 01:29:08,980 --> 01:29:05,750 later the way we do they wait until 1946 01:29:13,570 --> 01:29:08,990 they're shot there are many examples of 1947 01:29:17,260 --> 01:29:13,580 that so you know occasionally one of 1948 01:29:21,190 --> 01:29:17,270 wings one of us because we're in a state 1949 01:29:22,570 --> 01:29:21,200 the Cuban case where the Cuban Aerospace 1950 01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:22,580 Defense Command whatever you want to 1951 01:29:29,410 --> 01:29:27,170 call it picks up a UFO coming in and 1952 01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:29,420 they scrambled couple it's a couple of 1953 01:29:35,230 --> 01:29:33,890 MiG's and what should we do they tell 1954 01:29:37,930 --> 01:29:35,240 them just get the heck out of our 1955 01:29:41,050 --> 01:29:37,940 airspace and they ignore them shoot them 1956 01:29:41,440 --> 01:29:41,060 down so the first plane against the 1957 01:29:44,290 --> 01:29:41,450 radar 1958 01:29:47,860 --> 01:29:44,300 lock on report setback and missiles 1959 01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:47,870 armed and then the second plane 1960 01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:49,970 screeches that the first plane just 1961 01:29:55,450 --> 01:29:51,610 disintegrated 1962 01:29:57,310 --> 01:29:55,460 so apparently waited until okay you guys 1963 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--> 01:35:30,080 yeah but we're here if we're doing it 2090 01:35:36,700 --> 01:35:33,400 here that wouldn't stop them from 2091 01:35:39,850 --> 01:35:36,710 fighting back and maybe bringing a few 2092 01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:39,860 days I know cause they stopped the 2093 01:35:45,010 --> 01:35:42,050 airplane that was getting ready to send 2094 01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:45,020 a missile their way yeah they will 2095 01:35:51,940 --> 01:35:49,370 respond well we went back in the you 2096 01:35:53,710 --> 01:35:51,950 might know this more than my memories 2097 01:35:55,780 --> 01:35:53,720 maybe not as good as years for all these 2098 01:35:57,880 --> 01:35:55,790 details but didn't they have an order to 2099 01:36:01,570 --> 01:35:57,890 shoot at one point with the US Air Force 2100 01:36:04,390 --> 01:36:01,580 back in the late 50s and then after I 2101 01:36:06,460 --> 01:36:04,400 don't the instruction was very clear if 2102 01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:06,470 they don't land when instructed to do so 2103 01:36:11,440 --> 01:36:08,810 shoot them down yeah and then what there 2104 01:36:13,690 --> 01:36:11,450 was a bunch of our planes that were shot 2105 01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:13,700 down afterwards mysterious crashes let's 2106 01:36:18,970 --> 01:36:16,850 call them after that and some people 2107 01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:18,980 have attributed that to retaliation on 2108 01:36:23,500 --> 01:36:21,290 part of on the part of this could very 2109 01:36:25,750 --> 01:36:23,510 well be frank for she knows book about 2110 01:36:28,690 --> 01:36:25,760 the flatwoods monster case goes into 2111 01:36:31,060 --> 01:36:28,700 that we dug out over 200 reports of 2112 01:36:33,250 --> 01:36:31,070 crashed airplanes some of the pilots of 2113 01:36:35,590 --> 01:36:33,260 whom had had over a hundred missions 2114 01:36:37,990 --> 01:36:35,600 they weren't Dinks in other words they 2115 01:36:39,550 --> 01:36:38,000 were experienced pilots they come back 2116 01:36:41,110 --> 01:36:39,560 to the United States they were in war I 2117 01:36:43,980 --> 01:36:41,120 come back to the United States and they 2118 01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:43,990 crash fatal crashes when it seems 2119 01:36:48,100 --> 01:36:46,490 disproportionate that's for sure what 2120 01:36:51,460 --> 01:36:48,110 about with Mantegna do you think he was 2121 01:36:53,650 --> 01:36:51,470 after a skyhook balloon or no you 2122 01:36:56,010 --> 01:36:53,660 figured out that a pilot yeah that was 2123 01:36:58,600 --> 01:36:56,020 the real thing you figure yep 2124 01:37:03,700 --> 01:36:58,610 interesting government isn't gonna say 2125 01:37:07,210 --> 01:37:03,710 so oh yeah oh well they can't say that 2126 01:37:10,540 --> 01:37:07,220 you can't admit that oh yeah yeah that 2127 01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:10,550 was ours I got shot down because he was 2128 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:13,370 attacking a saucer you just blow it all 2129 01:37:19,180 --> 01:37:15,650 you've got to really cover that sort of 2130 01:37:19,950 --> 01:37:19,190 thing on right but you know the Mantell 2131 01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:19,960 cases 2132 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:23,280 beautiful and some feel it was a 2133 01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:27,010 conventional aircraft accident I don't 2134 01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:28,810 think it was but okay I'm not gonna go 2135 01:37:33,270 --> 01:37:30,730 into it today because I didn't do all my 2136 01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:33,280 homework on Mantell well too good a 2137 01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:35,110 pilot actually is probably one of the 2138 01:37:41,250 --> 01:37:38,370 best arguments in favor of the UFO 2139 01:37:43,740 --> 01:37:41,260 explanation that I've heard because I 2140 01:37:48,510 --> 01:37:43,750 think we need to give them more credit 2141 01:37:50,850 --> 01:37:48,520 perhaps and other people do we've got a 2142 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:50,860 question here from Angela who asks why 2143 01:37:55,650 --> 01:37:53,010 do so many people in the UFO community 2144 01:37:58,260 --> 01:37:55,660 have so much trouble getting along and 2145 01:38:00,479 --> 01:37:58,270 can this be one of the main reasons in 2146 01:38:02,490 --> 01:38:00,489 your opinion why we've seen such little 2147 01:38:05,550 --> 01:38:02,500 advancement and what's been discovered 2148 01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:05,560 about UFOs well remember it still isn't 2149 01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:07,600 much of a science there have been well 2150 01:38:14,100 --> 01:38:10,650 over a dozen PhD theses done about UFOs 2151 01:38:15,450 --> 01:38:14,110 but including one that some damning 2152 01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:15,460 things to say about press coverage 2153 01:38:21,180 --> 01:38:19,450 attract incidentally yeah look it's a 2154 01:38:24,300 --> 01:38:21,190 field that's that's waiting for 2155 01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:24,310 something really concrete you know show 2156 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:25,840 up with an alien in the trunk of your 2157 01:38:30,959 --> 01:38:27,730 car and parade them in front of an 2158 01:38:33,150 --> 01:38:30,969 audience now we got some you know what 2159 01:38:34,830 --> 01:38:33,160 can I say there are national security 2160 01:38:36,810 --> 01:38:34,840 concerns the government isn't talking 2161 01:38:40,010 --> 01:38:36,820 the religious people are very much 2162 01:38:44,370 --> 01:38:40,020 concerned and who come on very strong 2163 01:38:47,010 --> 01:38:44,380 ain't no aliens just earthlings we're 2164 01:38:48,630 --> 01:38:47,020 the only ones around and Jesus died to 2165 01:38:52,350 --> 01:38:48,640 save them too 2166 01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:52,360 what can I say we on the planet haven't 2167 01:38:57,209 --> 01:38:54,489 developed good methods for solving our 2168 01:38:59,820 --> 01:38:57,219 problems that might ducktail into a 2169 01:39:01,650 --> 01:38:59,830 question that burnt state asks how would 2170 01:39:04,410 --> 01:39:01,660 you describe the evolution of your 2171 01:39:06,270 --> 01:39:04,420 thinking about the UFO phenomena over 2172 01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:06,280 the years are your current views and 2173 01:39:10,830 --> 01:39:08,170 recent writings in sync with your 2174 01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:10,840 original theories and if not how is it 2175 01:39:17,970 --> 01:39:14,410 evolved well certainly the new data 2176 01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:17,980 about how many planets there are and how 2177 01:39:23,180 --> 01:39:20,530 many abductions there have been gives us 2178 01:39:26,250 --> 01:39:23,190 a new insight as to what's going on and 2179 01:39:28,140 --> 01:39:26,260 the feasibility in other words doesn't 2180 01:39:31,140 --> 01:39:28,150 seem so strange if you say jeez there's 2181 01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:31,150 one point six points per star as some of 2182 01:39:33,510 --> 01:39:32,650 these stars are much less than a 2183 01:39:37,140 --> 01:39:33,520 Lightyear from other 2184 01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:37,150 SURS and they've had 13 billion years to 2185 01:39:41,100 --> 01:39:39,370 develop all this kind of stuff give them 2186 01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:41,110 only 4 billion years that's still plenty 2187 01:39:46,350 --> 01:39:44,650 of time so that changes the view is that 2188 01:39:49,740 --> 01:39:46,360 being a bunch of little incidents 2189 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:49,750 there's a major effect going on here and 2190 01:39:54,540 --> 01:39:51,850 obviously the Galactic Federation seems 2191 01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:54,550 to care enough to send guys here to keep 2192 01:39:59,970 --> 01:39:57,130 tabs on what's going on monitor if you 2193 01:40:00,570 --> 01:39:59,980 will so my thing is changed in that 2194 01:40:03,420 --> 01:40:00,580 regard 2195 01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:03,430 also my having worked on nuclear rocket 2196 01:40:08,310 --> 01:40:05,920 engines I think the best day of my life 2197 01:40:11,490 --> 01:40:08,320 in industry is when we tested the NR xa6 2198 01:40:13,590 --> 01:40:11,500 nuclear rocket reactor propulsion system 2199 01:40:16,500 --> 01:40:13,600 and we had no idea how long it would 2200 01:40:19,290 --> 01:40:16,510 last before it blew itself apart because 2201 01:40:21,660 --> 01:40:19,300 was operating at 4,000 degrees plus an 8 2202 01:40:25,410 --> 01:40:21,670 feet in diameter power level of thousand 2203 01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:25,420 megawatts and we listened they broadcast 2204 01:40:30,330 --> 01:40:28,690 internally at Westinghouse and five 2205 01:40:32,850 --> 01:40:30,340 minutes nominal temperature and pressure 2206 01:40:35,730 --> 01:40:32,860 in ten minutes and wow that's looking 2207 01:40:37,260 --> 01:40:35,740 good 20 minutes 30 went to full 60 2208 01:40:39,480 --> 01:40:37,270 minutes the limit was how much like what 2209 01:40:42,540 --> 01:40:39,490 I urge in you could store so that was 2210 01:40:46,950 --> 01:40:42,550 one of my best moments in history if you 2211 01:40:49,530 --> 01:40:46,960 will in my history anyway and also 2212 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:49,540 because there was a side story to that a 2213 01:40:53,820 --> 01:40:52,810 back story if you will about a week 2214 01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:53,830 before the test 2215 01:40:58,860 --> 01:40:56,560 I was asked Stan we're not so sure about 2216 01:41:02,190 --> 01:40:58,870 the heating rates in the control system 2217 01:41:04,380 --> 01:41:02,200 around this reactor can he get some 2218 01:41:07,140 --> 01:41:04,390 measurements from with our low-level 2219 01:41:09,270 --> 01:41:07,150 system and come up with some data so I 2220 01:41:11,610 --> 01:41:09,280 worked my butt off for a week and came 2221 01:41:14,340 --> 01:41:11,620 up with the numbers and said yes it's 2222 01:41:17,370 --> 01:41:14,350 kind of work it won't melt but when we 2223 01:41:19,170 --> 01:41:17,380 started to test I suddenly realized if 2224 01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:19,180 that thing fails they're gonna blame me 2225 01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:24,400 so it was a great day when we went to 2226 01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:28,930 full time and it worked and that's rated 2227 01:41:33,330 --> 01:41:31,450 power and temperature and some I mean 2228 01:41:37,170 --> 01:41:33,340 people don't realize 4,000 degrees is 2229 01:41:38,700 --> 01:41:37,180 pretty darn high very high and the power 2230 01:41:40,430 --> 01:41:38,710 output that you're talking about is 2231 01:41:44,370 --> 01:41:40,440 amazing like what did you say half the 2232 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:44,380 power of the whoo yeah but in something 2233 01:41:48,220 --> 01:41:46,010 less than eight feet in diameter 2234 01:41:53,550 --> 01:41:48,230 like how many locomotive engines would 2235 01:41:58,750 --> 01:41:53,560 that be like jet motors or something 2236 01:42:03,640 --> 01:41:58,760 like a hundred 747s or something no less 2237 01:42:06,370 --> 01:42:03,650 than that from doing 20 well it's an 2238 01:42:08,290 --> 01:42:06,380 awful lot of power in a small space well 2239 01:42:11,140 --> 01:42:08,300 that's because the temperature 4,000 2240 01:42:13,540 --> 01:42:11,150 megawatts 4,000 degrees Fahrenheit and 2241 01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:13,550 Los Alamos is operated at 4,000 2242 01:42:17,530 --> 01:42:15,440 megawatts now with something like that' 2243 01:42:22,890 --> 01:42:17,540 i guess it would work in space right it 2244 01:42:27,100 --> 01:42:25,810 nitrogen and you pump we got pumps and 2245 01:42:28,690 --> 01:42:27,110 you pump them through the reactor and 2246 01:42:32,500 --> 01:42:28,700 they come out it they start off with 2247 01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:32,510 cold very very cold close to below 2248 01:42:38,110 --> 01:42:33,530 absolute zero 2249 01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:38,120 close - and you pumping into the reactor 2250 01:42:43,420 --> 01:42:40,970 and the reactor got graphite and other 2251 01:42:47,250 --> 01:42:43,430 nice light temperature materials and it 2252 01:42:50,290 --> 01:42:47,260 goes out the nozzle at 4,000 degrees 2253 01:42:58,750 --> 01:42:50,300 device plenty of hydrogen out there in 2254 01:43:01,210 --> 01:42:58,760 the universe so wherever you go you're 2255 01:43:03,010 --> 01:43:01,220 gonna find something if you do think an 2256 01:43:05,110 --> 01:43:03,020 engine like that could actually power an 2257 01:43:06,490 --> 01:43:05,120 interstellar craft or would we need some 2258 01:43:08,710 --> 01:43:06,500 hands in more power 2259 01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:08,720 well that was efficient system so it 2260 01:43:15,690 --> 01:43:10,250 didn't have the same power density as 2261 01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:15,700 fusion would so a-bombs versus H+ right 2262 01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:18,080 we're still dealing with some kind of 2263 01:43:27,310 --> 01:43:23,690 rocket or force counter forests yeah 2264 01:43:29,950 --> 01:43:27,320 wave propelling something that's right 2265 01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:29,960 but look even our conventional means of 2266 01:43:33,490 --> 01:43:31,850 doing things shocked people and one of 2267 01:43:34,780 --> 01:43:33,500 them that I shock people with is to 2268 01:43:38,350 --> 01:43:34,790 point out we have nuclear-powered 2269 01:43:39,940 --> 01:43:38,360 aircraft carriers big deal yeah but the 2270 01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:39,950 big deal is that can operate for 18 2271 01:43:45,130 --> 01:43:42,650 years without refueling yeah those 2272 01:43:47,440 --> 01:43:45,140 things are amazing I mean you're a ship 2273 01:43:49,570 --> 01:43:47,450 captain where do I stop for gas where 2274 01:43:52,180 --> 01:43:49,580 the tankers wait I don't need me for 18 2275 01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:52,190 years what do you want now when you're 2276 01:43:59,290 --> 01:43:54,850 looking at advanced propulsion systems 2277 01:44:03,040 --> 01:43:59,300 possibly used by a craft engineered for 2278 01:44:05,140 --> 01:44:03,050 interstellar travel and VOT is maybe 2279 01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:05,150 hundreds or thousands of years ahead of 2280 01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:05,570 us 2281 01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:10,010 would we even be able to recognize their 2282 01:44:17,110 --> 01:44:13,730 technology as technology it might be on 2283 01:44:21,460 --> 01:44:17,120 imagine to us it depends what 2284 01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:21,470 temperatures were talking about look 2285 01:44:26,860 --> 01:44:23,330 advanced technology is by definition 2286 01:44:31,390 --> 01:44:26,870 magic somebody once said that but my 2287 01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:31,400 book is top secret magic Maj I say I 2288 01:44:39,910 --> 01:44:34,370 should get about my website triple w dot 2289 01:44:41,650 --> 01:44:39,920 Stanton Friedman Fri EDMA and calm and 2290 01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:41,660 unless all the books and I autograph 2291 01:44:45,310 --> 01:44:43,850 everything I send out and the books the 2292 01:44:47,620 --> 01:44:45,320 three books that Kathy Martin and I 2293 01:44:50,500 --> 01:44:47,630 written we have little booklets and we 2294 01:44:52,990 --> 01:44:50,510 both order grits then I'd like to do 2295 01:44:54,610 --> 01:44:53,000 that with my son and myself we've 2296 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sightings occurred 2367 01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:17,030 years ago that the more recent sightings 2368 01:48:23,950 --> 01:48:20,090 haven't been so interesting significant 2369 01:48:27,940 --> 01:48:23,960 provocative are we wrong what does some 2370 01:48:29,620 --> 01:48:27,950 extent yes look the question is finding 2371 01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:29,630 out about the cases it isn't a question 2372 01:48:34,540 --> 01:48:32,000 of whether whether they happened 2373 01:48:36,100 --> 01:48:34,550 the military has learned much better how 2374 01:48:37,990 --> 01:48:36,110 to keep a lid on things and they're the 2375 01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:38,000 guys with the equipment the monitoring 2376 01:48:43,180 --> 01:48:40,610 systems you and I don't have devices 2377 01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:43,190 that go after flying saucers and get 2378 01:48:47,980 --> 01:48:45,170 their electromagnetic signatures and 2379 01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:47,990 things like that you know I stand in my 2380 01:48:52,810 --> 01:48:50,090 yard and try to find one in the sky I've 2381 01:48:54,430 --> 01:48:52,820 never seen one but pilots and 2382 01:48:56,500 --> 01:48:54,440 sophisticated airplanes have the 2383 01:49:00,070 --> 01:48:56,510 equipment look whether you're chasing a 2384 01:49:02,110 --> 01:49:00,080 Russian MIG or flying saucer the same 2385 01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:02,120 problems you want to know where their 2386 01:49:07,420 --> 01:49:04,610 capabilities how quickly do they change 2387 01:49:09,370 --> 01:49:07,430 direction what kind what is their 2388 01:49:10,930 --> 01:49:09,380 electromagnetic signature so I can pick 2389 01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:10,940 it up from the ground and know that it's 2390 01:49:17,020 --> 01:49:14,210 them was them and those aliens instead 2391 01:49:19,030 --> 01:49:17,030 of one of us hurtling things there's all 2392 01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:19,040 kinds of technology that you and I don't 2393 01:49:25,390 --> 01:49:22,970 have access to be nice maybe yes those 2394 01:49:28,150 --> 01:49:25,400 pesky ETS we're gonna find out what 2395 01:49:30,670 --> 01:49:28,160 they're up to now let me ask you this 2396 01:49:33,220 --> 01:49:30,680 then do you think that our government 2397 01:49:35,590 --> 01:49:33,230 and this kind of follows Rick Doty again 2398 01:49:39,100 --> 01:49:35,600 our government or any earth government 2399 01:49:42,190 --> 01:49:39,110 has had direct contact and interaction 2400 01:49:44,050 --> 01:49:42,200 with extraterrestrials there are a 2401 01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:44,060 number of stories kicking around maybe 2402 01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:47,090 Eisenhower meeting with them and all I 2403 01:49:52,810 --> 01:49:50,570 can say is I don't know and it wouldn't 2404 01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:52,820 surprise me but I think 2405 01:49:57,100 --> 01:49:55,370 clearly they're not about to land on the 2406 01:49:59,680 --> 01:49:57,110 White House lawn and say okay guys 2407 01:50:01,180 --> 01:49:59,690 here's the story here's what you can do 2408 01:50:02,830 --> 01:50:01,190 here's what you can do here's what we're 2409 01:50:05,530 --> 01:50:02,840 going to do if you don't do what we want 2410 01:50:08,860 --> 01:50:05,540 you to cetera like I don't know of any 2411 01:50:11,050 --> 01:50:08,870 situations like that and so the nations 2412 01:50:12,790 --> 01:50:11,060 of this front and have to decide what 2413 01:50:14,500 --> 01:50:12,800 kind of a world would be when we start 2414 01:50:17,410 --> 01:50:14,510 saying I'm an Earthling rather than an 2415 01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:17,420 American Canadian Brit German Spanish 2416 01:50:22,480 --> 01:50:20,570 etc etc well I picked the last I heard 2417 01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:22,490 there were 192 countries on the planet 2418 01:50:28,690 --> 01:50:26,570 and we're nationalists at heart so how 2419 01:50:30,970 --> 01:50:28,700 do we get beyond that I don't know 2420 01:50:35,140 --> 01:50:30,980 yeah the United Nations is a wonderful 2421 01:50:37,180 --> 01:50:35,150 idea and I was one of the dreamer types 2422 01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:37,190 too you know the John Lennon imagined 2423 01:50:41,500 --> 01:50:39,170 you know there's no countries we all 2424 01:50:44,170 --> 01:50:41,510 live in one big wonderful unified world 2425 01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:44,180 and then when they actually tried to get 2426 01:50:47,650 --> 01:50:45,290 that together it became a great 2427 01:50:49,450 --> 01:50:47,660 conspiracy where they we're saying that 2428 01:50:52,150 --> 01:50:49,460 we're trying to deny everybody their 2429 01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:52,160 cultural heritage so I'm not really sure 2430 01:50:57,730 --> 01:50:54,890 that we'll ever get past that you know 2431 01:50:59,530 --> 01:50:57,740 when people hear that song imagine they 2432 01:51:01,750 --> 01:50:59,540 forget a couple of lyrics said John 2433 01:51:07,470 --> 01:51:01,760 Lennon put in there imagine there's no 2434 01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:07,480 heaven another phrase and no religion - 2435 01:51:15,070 --> 01:51:12,650 yeah I can't say do with that the Pope I 2436 01:51:16,450 --> 01:51:15,080 said some nice things about UFOs and you 2437 01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:16,460 get the feeling where did he get his 2438 01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:16,970 data 2439 01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:20,690 who's telling him stuff no there are 2440 01:51:26,380 --> 01:51:23,450 some serious overall problems where do 2441 01:51:29,380 --> 01:51:26,390 we go as a society and the aliens 2442 01:51:31,300 --> 01:51:29,390 obviously aren't sitting down in front 2443 01:51:33,550 --> 01:51:31,310 of Congress and say ok guys here's the 2444 01:51:37,990 --> 01:51:33,560 way it's going to be they obviously have 2445 01:51:40,930 --> 01:51:38,000 a no hands off and no hands on attitude 2446 01:51:42,790 --> 01:51:40,940 toward us so do their thing and they may 2447 01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:42,800 want to make sure that there are things 2448 01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:46,810 that we don't do but in terms of 2449 01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:48,890 cooperating us to get their way that 2450 01:51:54,310 --> 01:51:51,410 doesn't seem to be their methodology 2451 01:51:56,260 --> 01:51:54,320 well Stan you said you actually did 2452 01:51:59,190 --> 01:51:56,270 appear before the United Nations can you 2453 01:52:02,350 --> 01:51:59,200 give us sort of the gist of your your 2454 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:02,360 what you said there well I went through 2455 01:52:06,759 --> 01:52:03,850 the fact that there are large-scale 2456 01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:06,769 scientific studies it shows 2457 01:52:11,739 --> 01:52:10,010 pick on blueworks special report 14 the 2458 01:52:14,739 --> 01:52:11,749 better the quality of the sighting the 2459 01:52:16,959 --> 01:52:14,749 more likely to be unexplainable that 2460 01:52:18,939 --> 01:52:16,969 across comparison between unknowns and 2461 01:52:22,299 --> 01:52:18,949 knowns show the probability unknown to 2462 01:52:26,589 --> 01:52:22,309 just miss knowns is less than 1% so I 2463 01:52:29,409 --> 01:52:26,599 went to the evidence and that was my my 2464 01:52:33,159 --> 01:52:29,419 paper and the same of the congressional 2465 01:52:34,689 --> 01:52:33,169 hearings of 1968 12 scientists provided 2466 01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:34,699 testimony I was the only one without a 2467 01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:38,570 PhD incidentally I'm proud of that had a 2468 01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:40,239 master's that's not good enough you know 2469 01:52:45,580 --> 01:52:43,130 but those papers are well worth reading 2470 01:52:49,209 --> 01:52:45,590 the work of dr. James E McDonald I 2471 01:52:51,669 --> 01:52:49,219 referred to him and stress the real 2472 01:52:56,109 --> 01:52:51,679 world of how things aren't secrets being 2473 01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:56,119 kept and so forth and so I was pleased 2474 01:53:01,290 --> 01:52:57,050 with their response 2475 01:53:05,109 --> 01:53:01,300 and you know I've had my Downard times I 2476 01:53:06,759 --> 01:53:05,119 they keep a lecture in Hawaii and it was 2477 01:53:09,699 --> 01:53:06,769 one that my wife went to we were living 2478 01:53:11,620 --> 01:53:09,709 in California and the schedule worked 2479 01:53:14,290 --> 01:53:11,630 out I'd have five days or six days 2480 01:53:17,259 --> 01:53:14,300 something like that so she went along 2481 01:53:18,759 --> 01:53:17,269 and show up for the lecture and I told 2482 01:53:22,540 --> 01:53:18,769 them I'd be available for anything you 2483 01:53:24,939 --> 01:53:22,550 want away radio television etc leeward 2484 01:53:27,279 --> 01:53:24,949 Community College no no just show up it 2485 01:53:29,739 --> 01:53:27,289 was an afternoon time at this big 2486 01:53:33,580 --> 01:53:29,749 auditorium holding 900 people and we had 2487 01:53:35,319 --> 01:53:33,590 26 people I think in the audience that's 2488 01:53:37,270 --> 01:53:35,329 kind of a slap in the face isn't it but 2489 01:53:39,339 --> 01:53:37,280 they hadn't done any PR except for those 2490 01:53:41,770 --> 01:53:39,349 squib and a paper that had hundreds of 2491 01:53:44,169 --> 01:53:41,780 them you know to inch to column inches 2492 01:53:49,239 --> 01:53:44,179 wide and a half inch I can't sell the 2493 01:53:52,029 --> 01:53:49,249 sizzle that way so that was a sad moment 2494 01:53:58,659 --> 01:53:52,039 for me but what back we had a trip to 2495 01:54:00,779 --> 01:53:58,669 Hawaii and you know Saudi Arabia was 2496 01:54:03,459 --> 01:54:00,789 interesting we do believe they had a 2497 01:54:06,609 --> 01:54:03,469 conference with a lot of things going on 2498 01:54:09,129 --> 01:54:06,619 but there was one panel one afternoon 2499 01:54:13,469 --> 01:54:09,139 with I think five of us michio kaku was 2500 01:54:15,069 --> 01:54:13,479 one of the people incidentally and 2501 01:54:17,020 --> 01:54:15,079 before I left 2502 01:54:18,639 --> 01:54:17,030 people were saying Stan you're going to 2503 01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:18,649 Saudi Arabia you've forgotten you're 2504 01:54:23,690 --> 01:54:19,890 Jewish but Conner 2505 01:54:26,930 --> 01:54:23,700 I said well I contacted my person in 2506 01:54:29,450 --> 01:54:26,940 charge and is there a problem I don't 2507 01:54:30,650 --> 01:54:29,460 want to get there and wait at the door 2508 01:54:34,130 --> 01:54:30,660 while you're telling me oh you can't 2509 01:54:35,750 --> 01:54:34,140 come in you're Jewish and they said no 2510 01:54:37,850 --> 01:54:35,760 we've had other Jewish speakers at these 2511 01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:37,860 in past years no problem so that was 2512 01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:40,410 interesting I went to Turkey and we had 2513 01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:42,960 over 2,000 people at a symposium would 2514 01:54:55,220 --> 01:54:50,270 that was a great experience 2515 01:54:57,050 --> 01:54:55,230 I enjoyed Hong Kong and South Korea so 2516 01:55:00,560 --> 01:54:57,060 you've been all over the world with this 2517 01:55:05,630 --> 01:55:00,570 is pretty interesting countries the most 2518 01:55:10,310 --> 01:55:05,640 recent was Bulgaria had a nice response 2519 01:55:13,460 --> 01:55:10,320 in Poland in Warsaw and in Bulgaria it 2520 01:55:15,460 --> 01:55:13,470 was the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences 2521 01:55:18,260 --> 01:55:15,470 that sponsored me believe it or not 2522 01:55:25,130 --> 01:55:18,270 these five people overseas are more 2523 01:55:26,570 --> 01:55:25,140 receptive or less receptive to the ones 2524 01:55:28,130 --> 01:55:26,580 who show up for the lecture so I don't 2525 01:55:32,030 --> 01:55:28,140 know about the ones that didn't come you 2526 01:55:33,530 --> 01:55:32,040 know but I say the world is quite ready 2527 01:55:34,190 --> 01:55:33,540 to accept the notion that we're not 2528 01:55:36,770 --> 01:55:34,200 alone 2529 01:55:38,390 --> 01:55:36,780 and I think part of that is a realistic 2530 01:55:41,150 --> 01:55:38,400 kind of thing we've been fighting the 2531 01:55:42,980 --> 01:55:41,160 wars around this planet they're making 2532 01:55:44,990 --> 01:55:42,990 the tough to raise kids and all the rest 2533 01:55:50,270 --> 01:55:45,000 of that isn't it time we took a larger 2534 01:55:53,390 --> 01:55:50,280 viewpoint you know be kind to your your 2535 01:55:58,610 --> 01:55:53,400 neighbors sort of thing I get a feeling 2536 01:56:03,220 --> 01:55:58,620 of that and so I never had a problem 2537 01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:03,230 with you know speaking in Israel and 2538 01:56:12,010 --> 01:56:09,570 Finland Argentina you know everywhere I 2539 01:56:17,450 --> 01:56:12,020 go there's interest there's excitement 2540 01:56:22,210 --> 01:56:17,460 is friendliness so I'm not leaving the 2541 01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:22,220 field on because of disgust oh damn it 2542 01:56:27,410 --> 01:56:25,530 well you sounded pretty good today and 2543 01:56:31,010 --> 01:56:27,420 we're really glad to have you here I 2544 01:56:32,270 --> 01:56:31,020 guess we we have to though we do our 2545 01:56:34,220 --> 01:56:32,280 duty in 2546 01:56:38,210 --> 01:56:34,230 ask one of the skeptical questions here 2547 01:56:41,210 --> 01:56:38,220 we have a question from many mcnutty 2548 01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:41,220 who quotes he was saying there's not a 2549 01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:42,930 shadow of a doubt that aliens have come 2550 01:56:48,830 --> 01:56:46,170 to earth and so she wants to know what 2551 01:56:51,620 --> 01:56:48,840 makes you so sure and you know which 2552 01:56:54,050 --> 01:56:51,630 et's and how many dates and meetings 2553 01:56:56,030 --> 01:56:54,060 have you been able to verify 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way is 2664 02:02:10,399 --> 02:02:08,670 speaking of flipping out on after the 2665 02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:10,409 parent cast this week we'll have Greg 2666 02:02:16,399 --> 02:02:13,770 Bishop he's anxious to come on that's 2667 02:02:19,189 --> 02:02:16,409 gonna be a fascinating episode with 2668 02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:19,199 Randall and Greg you want to continue 2669 02:02:29,180 --> 02:02:26,130 answering that question Stan you and I 2670 02:02:32,780 --> 02:02:29,190 we have we have a worldview that 2671 02:02:37,299 --> 02:02:32,790 includes alien visitation as a reality 2672 02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:37,309 of existence other people don't and they 2673 02:02:44,419 --> 02:02:41,010 need more than just our word for it so 2674 02:02:46,189 --> 02:02:44,429 what do you say to them I say that there 2675 02:02:48,620 --> 02:02:46,199 is more than our word as a biggest study 2676 02:02:51,229 --> 02:02:48,630 done for the Air Force the Air Force 2677 02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:51,239 absolutely lied when they put out a 2678 02:02:56,600 --> 02:02:54,090 press release about the study they said 2679 02:02:58,520 --> 02:02:56,610 on the basis of this study we believe 2680 02:03:00,290 --> 02:02:58,530 that no objects such as those properly 2681 02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:00,300 described as flying saucers have over 2682 02:03:06,890 --> 02:03:02,730 phone the United States even the unknown 2683 02:03:10,549 --> 02:03:06,900 3 percent could have been explained as 2684 02:03:13,370 --> 02:03:10,559 conventional phenomena or illusions well 2685 02:03:15,770 --> 02:03:13,380 I had that I had the report I found at 2686 02:03:18,410 --> 02:03:15,780 University of California Library Project 2687 02:03:20,870 --> 02:03:18,420 Blue Book special report 14 unknown 2688 02:03:23,620 --> 02:03:20,880 three percent hell no the unknowns are 2689 02:03:26,359 --> 02:03:23,630 twenty one a half percent completely 2690 02:03:29,319 --> 02:03:26,369 separate from the reports which were 2691 02:03:31,010 --> 02:03:29,329 listed as insufficient if information 2692 02:03:32,839 --> 02:03:31,020 through them where they did a 2693 02:03:34,549 --> 02:03:32,849 statistical cross comparison the 2694 02:03:36,950 --> 02:03:34,559 properties of the unknowns versus the 2695 02:03:39,140 --> 02:03:36,960 properties of the knowns and they found 2696 02:03:40,580 --> 02:03:39,150 the probability that the unknowns the 2697 02:03:43,250 --> 02:03:40,590 only ones were interested in we just 2698 02:03:45,610 --> 02:03:43,260 missed knowns was less than one percent 2699 02:03:47,540 --> 02:03:45,620 the two groups did not match 2700 02:03:51,980 --> 02:03:47,550 but that's not what the public was told 2701 02:03:54,260 --> 02:03:51,990 they were lied to flat how mine that's 2702 02:03:56,300 --> 02:03:54,270 one of the things I do then I look at 2703 02:03:58,460 --> 02:03:56,310 the testimony of dr. James E McDonald 2704 02:04:02,090 --> 02:03:58,470 professor of physics at the University 2705 02:04:05,900 --> 02:04:02,100 of Arizona he talked to 500 witnesses in 2706 02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:05,910 many cases multiple witness military 2707 02:04:12,650 --> 02:04:08,850 people the are b-47 case a 2708 02:04:15,470 --> 02:04:12,660 reconnaissance bomber from RV 47 and a 2709 02:04:17,420 --> 02:04:15,480 five-man crew and this object went 2710 02:04:19,970 --> 02:04:17,430 around them they pick it up on their 2711 02:04:21,950 --> 02:04:19,980 radar they told the ground they picked 2712 02:04:25,490 --> 02:04:21,960 it up on their radars in the Gulf of 2713 02:04:27,050 --> 02:04:25,500 Mexico and no question its behavior just 2714 02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:27,060 didn't match any kind of flying vehicle 2715 02:04:34,100 --> 02:04:30,210 ever this is in the least fifties I 2716 02:04:36,050 --> 02:04:34,110 guess you're stuck here's the reality of 2717 02:04:39,230 --> 02:04:36,060 what the whole crew saw and what their 2718 02:04:41,240 --> 02:04:39,240 instruments picked up etc you get enough 2719 02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:41,250 cases like that and you shake your head 2720 02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:42,930 and say yeah there are cases it can be 2721 02:04:49,310 --> 02:04:45,210 explained but that would be like saying 2722 02:04:51,260 --> 02:04:49,320 that look 99.9% of people are not seven 2723 02:04:54,380 --> 02:04:51,270 feet tall therefore anybody who says he 2724 02:04:58,100 --> 02:04:54,390 knows anybody who $70 why wait you out 2725 02:05:01,310 --> 02:04:58,110 to the NBA often you'll find two seven 2726 02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:01,320 footers on court yes it's true most 2727 02:05:04,550 --> 02:05:02,850 people aren't seven feet tall but that's 2728 02:05:07,910 --> 02:05:04,560 the wrong question question is are any 2729 02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:07,920 and the answer is yes so yes most ideas 2730 02:05:13,340 --> 02:05:11,490 can be explained big deal most people 2731 02:05:16,190 --> 02:05:13,350 can't lift 500 pounds but there are a 2732 02:05:18,250 --> 02:05:16,200 few people who managed to do that or run 2733 02:05:20,510 --> 02:05:18,260 a four-minute mile or things like that 2734 02:05:25,370 --> 02:05:20,520 the exceptional is what we pay attention 2735 02:05:27,800 --> 02:05:25,380 to that's the way it is so in the rest 2736 02:05:30,710 --> 02:05:27,810 of our life we accept eyewitness 2737 02:05:34,220 --> 02:05:30,720 testimony in courts until police won and 2738 02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:34,230 I went to a party a shooting party me or 2739 02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:36,210 this party a have to die and you take 2740 02:05:40,730 --> 02:05:37,890 someone whose DNA and you find it on the 2741 02:05:45,260 --> 02:05:40,740 gun I mean cause I'm crazy like that no 2742 02:05:47,090 --> 02:05:45,270 if the testimony is looked into we have 2743 02:05:49,850 --> 02:05:47,100 Polygram examinations and other things 2744 02:05:52,280 --> 02:05:49,860 but we have we means of verifying truth 2745 02:05:55,310 --> 02:05:52,290 so we have a standard approach in our 2746 02:05:57,629 --> 02:05:55,320 society to dealing with unexplainable 2747 02:05:59,729 --> 02:05:57,639 things that we at first 2748 02:06:03,330 --> 02:05:59,739 I'll say I don't know what happened here 2749 02:06:05,459 --> 02:06:03,340 crime being one of them obviously and so 2750 02:06:08,270 --> 02:06:05,469 we have to proceed with good sense 2751 02:06:11,399 --> 02:06:08,280 science is based on evidence not 2752 02:06:14,550 --> 02:06:11,409 research by Proclamation research by 2753 02:06:17,370 --> 02:06:14,560 investigation and in every country we 2754 02:06:18,390 --> 02:06:17,380 have cases that simply be explained as 2755 02:06:20,580 --> 02:06:18,400 intelligently controlled 2756 02:06:22,680 --> 02:06:20,590 extraterrestrial spacecraft we don't 2757 02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:22,690 know where from why from but I don't 2758 02:06:27,870 --> 02:06:24,730 talk to me we don't need to know those 2759 02:06:30,410 --> 02:06:27,880 things it's not a part of what's real of 2760 02:06:43,580 --> 02:06:30,420 course then you know they would say well 2761 02:06:49,379 --> 02:06:45,870 that's the problem look I've been in 2762 02:06:52,020 --> 02:06:49,389 debates dr. seth shostack I like says 2763 02:06:53,990 --> 02:06:52,030 he's one of the city people SETI stands 2764 02:07:04,379 --> 02:06:54,000 for silly effort to investigate you know 2765 02:07:06,450 --> 02:07:04,389 come on come you know well it claims to 2766 02:07:09,180 --> 02:07:06,460 be scientific but why don't they look at 2767 02:07:10,950 --> 02:07:09,190 the UFO evidence they're interested in 2768 02:07:12,209 --> 02:07:10,960 extraterrestrial intelligence but they 2769 02:07:21,479 --> 02:07:12,219 don't want to look at the evidence of 2770 02:07:23,370 --> 02:07:21,489 aliens coming here yeah we've got a 2771 02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:23,380 picture actually right on the site with 2772 02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:25,210 the UFO hovering outside the control 2773 02:07:30,450 --> 02:07:28,090 room I think it's a Green Bank and you 2774 02:07:41,930 --> 02:07:30,460 know no the signal is too close it can't 2775 02:07:47,609 --> 02:07:41,940 be alien back incidentally 47:33 10 and 2776 02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:47,619 I won the debate with dr. he's head of 2777 02:07:52,890 --> 02:07:51,010 the skeptic Society suddenly lost his 2778 02:07:55,260 --> 02:07:52,900 name well I know Sagan was in there for 2779 02:07:56,939 --> 02:07:55,270 a while well Karl and I were classmates 2780 02:07:58,890 --> 02:07:56,949 for three years at the University of 2781 02:08:00,720 --> 02:07:58,900 Chicago during the same physics class as 2782 02:08:03,030 --> 02:08:00,730 we go out adjacent towns in New Jersey 2783 02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:03,040 that's really interesting because I was 2784 02:08:06,959 --> 02:08:05,290 doing some investigating in his earlier 2785 02:08:10,050 --> 02:08:06,969 years and he seemed to be very 2786 02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:10,060 interested in UFOs and even wrote to he 2787 02:08:13,230 --> 02:08:12,010 Dean and saying that they should be 2788 02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:13,240 there should be a serious investigation 2789 02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:16,690 and then he seemed to get really cut off 2790 02:08:22,650 --> 02:08:18,610 by the whole politics of the thing can 2791 02:08:24,990 --> 02:08:22,660 you comment on any of that well yeah he 2792 02:08:26,630 --> 02:08:25,000 know who he was and he was looking for 2793 02:08:29,100 --> 02:08:26,640 something else I guess you could say 2794 02:08:30,330 --> 02:08:29,110 twice in two different books he said 2795 02:08:32,670 --> 02:08:30,340 they're interesting sightings that 2796 02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:32,680 aren't reliable there are reliable 2797 02:08:35,580 --> 02:08:34,090 sightings that aren't interesting but 2798 02:08:37,110 --> 02:08:35,590 there are no interesting and reliable 2799 02:08:39,090 --> 02:08:37,120 sightings but if you look at the 2800 02:08:41,580 --> 02:08:39,100 large-scale studies to which of course 2801 02:08:43,830 --> 02:08:41,590 it makes no reference it's just the 2802 02:08:47,510 --> 02:08:43,840 reverse the more reliable the sighting 2803 02:08:50,670 --> 02:08:47,520 the more likely to be unexplainable but 2804 02:08:53,700 --> 02:08:50,680 along with the crowd so to speak I spoke 2805 02:08:55,950 --> 02:08:53,710 at Cornell he came to my lecture we 2806 02:08:57,600 --> 02:08:55,960 agreed before and he didn't want to get 2807 02:08:59,880 --> 02:08:57,610 into it because he had other things to 2808 02:09:02,760 --> 02:08:59,890 do and so forth it was a friendly 2809 02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:02,770 exchange such Rostock and I were 2810 02:09:08,340 --> 02:09:06,010 friendly but he and the course of art we 2811 02:09:10,650 --> 02:09:08,350 had free trip on the Queen Elizabeth - 2812 02:09:12,860 --> 02:09:10,660 from London to New York and we each 2813 02:09:15,570 --> 02:09:12,870 attended the other's three lectures and 2814 02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:15,580 Chris have one of mine I asked how many 2815 02:09:19,590 --> 02:09:17,410 people talking about five large-scale 2816 02:09:21,630 --> 02:09:19,600 scientific studies and after each one I 2817 02:09:23,370 --> 02:09:21,640 asked somebody read this and he hadn't 2818 02:09:24,870 --> 02:09:23,380 read any of them if you haven't looked 2819 02:09:26,310 --> 02:09:24,880 at the evidence are you entitled to an 2820 02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:26,320 opinion especially if you're going to 2821 02:09:32,070 --> 02:09:29,650 call it a scientific opinion so I have 2822 02:09:33,930 --> 02:09:32,080 no problem with shaming people who claim 2823 02:09:35,130 --> 02:09:33,940 to be expert then well no I haven't 2824 02:09:37,650 --> 02:09:35,140 looked at any of those large scale 2825 02:09:39,300 --> 02:09:37,660 studies a guy came to me or the first 2826 02:09:42,390 --> 02:09:39,310 questionnaire didn't come up to a year 2827 02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:42,400 and it was a professional group and I'm 2828 02:09:47,010 --> 02:09:43,770 like a professional engineering 2829 02:09:49,650 --> 02:09:47,020 organization and well I'm sure one could 2830 02:09:52,050 --> 02:09:49,660 come to other conclusions than the ones 2831 02:09:53,970 --> 02:09:52,060 you've come to I said well as I recall 2832 02:09:56,340 --> 02:09:53,980 you hadn't looked at any of those five 2833 02:09:58,470 --> 02:09:56,350 hours ago Studies is that correct yes 2834 02:09:59,970 --> 02:09:58,480 that's true it's what's the difference 2835 02:10:01,530 --> 02:09:59,980 between us isn't it I gave you my 2836 02:10:03,390 --> 02:10:01,540 conclusions I gave you the sources of 2837 02:10:05,510 --> 02:10:03,400 data in which I base my conclusions I've 2838 02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:05,520 read them all you've read none of them 2839 02:10:10,830 --> 02:10:08,890 whose opinions worth more and we'll have 2840 02:10:13,350 --> 02:10:10,840 that answer although it's pretty obvious 2841 02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:13,360 in our next segment was Stanton T 2842 02:10:18,870 --> 02:10:16,690 Friedman J ranlo Murphy Jean Steinberg 2843 02:10:24,030 --> 02:10:18,880 Chris O'Brien Soph this week you're in 2844 02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:28,650 [Music] 2845 02:10:37,370 --> 02:10:32,570 thank you for listening to GCN 2846 02:10:39,560 --> 02:10:37,380 be sure to visit GCN live.com today face 2847 02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:39,570 it today's electric power grid is more 2848 02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:41,370 vulnerable than ever from natural 2849 02:10:45,590 --> 02:10:43,770 disasters to EMP attacks and hacking the 2850 02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:45,600 grid could be crippled for days or even 2851 02:10:50,570 --> 02:10:48,330 decades in the most dire scenarios visit 2852 02:10:52,940 --> 02:10:50,580 quantum harvest net to see are built to 2853 02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:52,950 last EMP protected solar power systems 2854 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three one 2951 02:14:33,470 --> 02:14:32,280 zero seven seventy one that's eight 2952 02:14:36,439 --> 02:14:33,480 hundred eighty three one zero seven 2953 02:14:39,400 --> 02:14:36,449 seventy one or visit reputation defender 2954 02:14:39,410 --> 02:14:44,430 [Music] 2955 02:14:49,060 --> 02:14:47,080 hi this is Bryce a blonde the producer 2956 02:14:50,980 --> 02:14:49,070 of dark sky is the co-author of AD after 2957 02:14:53,130 --> 02:14:50,990 disclosure and you are listening to the 2958 02:14:54,820 --> 02:14:53,140 para cast the gold standard of 2959 02:15:02,520 --> 02:14:54,830 paranormal radio 2960 02:15:05,080 --> 02:15:02,530 [Music] 2961 02:15:08,589 --> 02:15:05,090 so Randall any more questions we should 2962 02:15:11,620 --> 02:15:08,599 look at well I believe we had one more 2963 02:15:16,839 --> 02:15:11,630 that just popped into the to the forum 2964 02:15:18,549 --> 02:15:16,849 and you're asking this is Jimmy and he's 2965 02:15:21,279 --> 02:15:18,559 been one of our longtime forum 2966 02:15:24,040 --> 02:15:21,289 participants doesn't say much but he 2967 02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:24,050 asks who's working ufology do you most 2968 02:15:28,779 --> 02:15:26,570 admire and why and we've already talked 2969 02:15:32,379 --> 02:15:28,789 about Greenwald who's excellent any 2970 02:15:34,810 --> 02:15:32,389 others that popped to mind well 2971 02:15:36,910 --> 02:15:34,820 certainly Jim McDonald was one of my 2972 02:15:40,449 --> 02:15:36,920 heroes dr. James Ian McDonald the 2973 02:15:42,969 --> 02:15:40,459 University of Arizona and he stood up in 2974 02:15:45,549 --> 02:15:42,979 public his testimony of Congress was 2975 02:15:47,709 --> 02:15:45,559 important and so forth he was troubled 2976 02:15:51,100 --> 02:15:47,719 he unfortunately committed suicide so 2977 02:15:53,979 --> 02:15:51,110 and I'm not reading any nefarious and 2978 02:15:56,049 --> 02:15:53,989 notions into that I'm like Kathleen 2979 02:15:58,419 --> 02:15:56,059 Martin has been writing research and I'm 2980 02:16:04,719 --> 02:15:58,429 just read an advanced chapter of a book 2981 02:16:06,689 --> 02:16:04,729 she's working outstanding data and that 2982 02:16:13,179 --> 02:16:06,699 would be with experiencers rates down 2983 02:16:17,100 --> 02:16:13,189 yes yes and it's incredible how much 2984 02:16:21,339 --> 02:16:17,110 good stuff oh I'm trying to think that 2985 02:16:23,049 --> 02:16:21,349 Canadian and brute Kowski with well 2986 02:16:26,319 --> 02:16:23,059 chris pratt cassie another good man he's 2987 02:16:27,790 --> 02:16:26,329 written a couple of books there's 2988 02:16:31,719 --> 02:16:27,800 another one Nolan 2989 02:16:34,990 --> 02:16:31,729 no he's American which is okay he's 2990 02:16:36,519 --> 02:16:35,000 enthusiastic suffers from our problem 2991 02:16:39,129 --> 02:16:36,529 not really being familiar with how 2992 02:16:40,599 --> 02:16:39,139 security works and many of the people 2993 02:16:44,769 --> 02:16:40,609 who've never had a clearance and that 2994 02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:44,779 same difficulty dr. don don dari a 2995 02:16:49,509 --> 02:16:47,090 professor of psychology is retired now 2996 02:16:52,089 --> 02:16:49,519 from McGill University in Canada he's 2997 02:16:54,429 --> 02:16:52,099 involved in this free movement and this 2998 02:16:59,679 --> 02:16:54,439 done some very interesting work very 2999 02:17:00,879 --> 02:16:59,689 good work somebody I recommend so there 3000 02:17:04,089 --> 02:17:00,889 are good people out there 3001 02:17:07,150 --> 02:17:04,099 now I have to tell you Chris Bukowski is 3002 02:17:09,879 --> 02:17:07,160 one of my favorite he also does great 3003 02:17:10,849 --> 02:17:09,889 impressions because he does I think 3004 02:17:13,549 --> 02:17:10,859 works for some 3005 02:17:16,719 --> 02:17:13,559 that does reenactments of radio shows 3006 02:17:20,059 --> 02:17:16,729 and such and he does a great impression 3007 02:17:23,540 --> 02:17:20,069 of Ming the Merciless not from the 3008 02:17:26,080 --> 02:17:23,550 original movie from the 30s with Charles 3009 02:17:28,969 --> 02:17:26,090 Middleton but the more recent one I 3010 02:17:31,069 --> 02:17:28,979 didn't know that yeah I've known Chris 3011 02:17:32,809 --> 02:17:31,079 for a long time he's very much in the 3012 02:17:35,089 --> 02:17:32,819 pop culture you have to catch him in the 3013 02:17:36,609 --> 02:17:35,099 right frame of mind and he's just so 3014 02:17:40,040 --> 02:17:36,619 much fun 3015 02:17:43,609 --> 02:17:40,050 okay well that's good the next time I 3016 02:17:47,290 --> 02:17:43,619 feel yes a show me what Ming the 3017 02:17:50,629 --> 02:17:47,300 Merciless sounds like and I'll show you 3018 02:17:53,149 --> 02:17:50,639 good idea yeah people have some hidden 3019 02:17:55,989 --> 02:17:53,159 talents let me ask you a question Stan 3020 02:18:00,769 --> 02:17:55,999 which is more of a personal question 3021 02:18:02,899 --> 02:18:00,779 what do you think our listeners would 3022 02:18:07,129 --> 02:18:02,909 like to know about you personally that 3023 02:18:11,119 --> 02:18:07,139 they do not know now because you always 3024 02:18:12,649 --> 02:18:11,129 talk about the UFOs and such know it 3025 02:18:23,649 --> 02:18:12,659 wasn't always when I didn't get my first 3026 02:18:27,439 --> 02:18:23,659 lecture until I was what 24 no 34 267 33 3027 02:18:29,719 --> 02:18:27,449 I worked my way through colleges first a 3028 02:18:31,219 --> 02:18:29,729 busboy in the Catskills and then three 3029 02:18:35,779 --> 02:18:31,229 years as a union waiter at a restaurant 3030 02:18:37,759 --> 02:18:35,789 in Chicago do we even have waiters 3031 02:18:39,979 --> 02:18:37,769 anymore that's an interesting thing you 3032 02:18:43,729 --> 02:18:39,989 brought up are there such things as 3033 02:18:47,689 --> 02:18:43,739 Union waiters well hotel restaurant and 3034 02:18:49,519 --> 02:18:47,699 bartenders Association in Chicago is big 3035 02:18:51,649 --> 02:18:49,529 for waiters and bartenders it's 3036 02:18:53,779 --> 02:18:51,659 something like that now there was a long 3037 02:18:56,989 --> 02:18:53,789 time ago man I'm not saying it so like 3038 02:18:58,849 --> 02:18:56,999 that but I mentioned Union because they 3039 02:19:01,580 --> 02:18:58,859 had standards and they assured you got I 3040 02:19:05,359 --> 02:19:01,590 think I'm hearing 450 a meal plus tips 3041 02:19:14,449 --> 02:19:05,369 of course you were paid by the mill not 3042 02:19:18,339 --> 02:19:14,459 by the hour no when I was there and this 3043 02:19:24,589 --> 02:19:18,349 must be like 1830 or something right 3044 02:19:28,939 --> 02:19:24,599 no 1953 to 55 to 3045 02:19:33,950 --> 02:19:28,949 let's see 56 when I was at University of 3046 02:19:36,889 --> 02:19:33,960 Chicago 53 to 56 walking distance from 3047 02:19:42,049 --> 02:19:36,899 the university I live I mean I worked 3048 02:19:45,530 --> 02:19:42,059 and that was something people didn't 3049 02:19:47,660 --> 02:19:45,540 know my first the rewards of hard work I 3050 02:19:49,670 --> 02:19:47,670 was valedictorian of my high school 3051 02:19:51,950 --> 02:19:49,680 class but I was young I'd skipped a 3052 02:19:56,120 --> 02:19:51,960 grade when I was between 3rd and 4th 3053 02:19:57,769 --> 02:19:56,130 grade and so my first job and I lived in 3054 02:20:00,649 --> 02:19:57,779 New Jersey and they had very strict 3055 02:20:02,500 --> 02:20:00,659 rules about working papers and ages and 3056 02:20:05,750 --> 02:20:02,510 all that because it's a heavy industry 3057 02:20:08,689 --> 02:20:05,760 industry state and the only job I could 3058 02:20:11,450 --> 02:20:08,699 get was as working at a wholesale candy 3059 02:20:13,309 --> 02:20:11,460 house the stores would order a box of 3060 02:20:15,349 --> 02:20:13,319 this kind of candy bar and a box of that 3061 02:20:18,280 --> 02:20:15,359 kind of anywhere and so forth I was 3062 02:20:19,780 --> 02:20:18,290 getting paid 65 cents an hour 3063 02:20:23,240 --> 02:20:19,790 valedictorian 3064 02:20:26,269 --> 02:20:23,250 you know I did a calculation and this 3065 02:20:28,700 --> 02:20:26,279 states back to the 60s when I work with 3066 02:20:31,330 --> 02:20:28,710 Jim Mosley its austere news he paid me 3067 02:20:36,700 --> 02:20:31,340 five dollars an hour in the mid-60s 3068 02:20:39,649 --> 02:20:36,710 now if Wow this country's minimum wage 3069 02:20:47,780 --> 02:20:39,659 had kept up with the cost of living all 3070 02:20:52,280 --> 02:20:47,790 those years it'd be $19 an hour now well 3071 02:20:54,229 --> 02:20:52,290 I said sixty-five cents an hour and look 3072 02:20:57,160 --> 02:20:54,239 I worked my way through college so I had 3073 02:21:01,580 --> 02:20:57,170 scholarships but yeah you got to eat and 3074 02:21:02,750 --> 02:21:01,590 sleep and all that sort of thing and so 3075 02:21:06,859 --> 02:21:02,760 that's something that everybody knows 3076 02:21:08,960 --> 02:21:06,869 about me I guess I don't advertise it 3077 02:21:11,750 --> 02:21:08,970 particularly when I worked in the 3078 02:21:14,780 --> 02:21:11,760 Catskills one summer as a busboy that 3079 02:21:19,790 --> 02:21:14,790 was fun did you get to see any famous 3080 02:21:21,439 --> 02:21:19,800 artists performing there yeah I think 3081 02:21:24,200 --> 02:21:21,449 Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis are up there 3082 02:21:26,300 --> 02:21:24,210 when I'm at another hotel we'd go over 3083 02:21:27,679 --> 02:21:26,310 other hotels they wanted I had to take 3084 02:21:29,210 --> 02:21:27,689 dancing lessons because they wanted the 3085 02:21:33,130 --> 02:21:29,220 best boys to dance with the visiting 3086 02:21:36,649 --> 02:21:33,140 girls wait a minute wait a minute 3087 02:21:38,179 --> 02:21:36,659 Stanton T Friedman taking dancing 3088 02:21:42,469 --> 02:21:38,189 lessons are there any fun 3089 02:21:45,529 --> 02:21:42,479 the graphs of this I good question I 3090 02:21:48,830 --> 02:21:45,539 don't think so I had to learn how to 3091 02:21:50,319 --> 02:21:48,840 rumba and Samba and even the little 3092 02:21:52,819 --> 02:21:50,329 tango 3093 02:21:56,630 --> 02:21:52,829 well families would come up on the 3094 02:21:59,569 --> 02:21:56,640 weekend and my pop would drive home 3095 02:22:00,949 --> 02:21:59,579 leave the wife and daughter there so the 3096 02:22:03,019 --> 02:22:00,959 daughters out of dance with somebody 3097 02:22:04,580 --> 02:22:03,029 every night there was entertainment and 3098 02:22:07,790 --> 02:22:04,590 a band playing and all that sort of 3099 02:22:10,790 --> 02:22:07,800 stuff so I had to learn how to dance 3100 02:22:13,670 --> 02:22:10,800 come on Stan you gotta learn so the in 3101 02:22:20,620 --> 02:22:13,680 dance instructor it was free lessons how 3102 02:22:25,040 --> 02:22:20,630 did you meet your wife well second life 3103 02:22:32,889 --> 02:22:25,050 long complicated story a good friend of 3104 02:22:36,649 --> 02:22:32,899 hers was my aunt and my new that I was 3105 02:22:38,960 --> 02:22:36,659 at University of Chicago and I was 3106 02:22:41,899 --> 02:22:38,970 looking for a place to live and her 3107 02:22:44,660 --> 02:22:41,909 friend was so we wound up sharing an 3108 02:22:47,779 --> 02:22:44,670 apartment she had a couple of kids and 3109 02:22:51,859 --> 02:22:47,789 so forth so that was that was my first 3110 02:22:57,830 --> 02:22:51,869 wife how we met and we had adopted a 3111 02:23:01,340 --> 02:22:57,840 child and we had met the natural mother 3112 02:23:02,870 --> 02:23:01,350 of the child and 10 years later she made 3113 02:23:07,340 --> 02:23:02,880 contact as she seen heard me on a 3114 02:23:10,250 --> 02:23:07,350 Canadian television show and we were I 3115 02:23:11,809 --> 02:23:10,260 was first wife and I were separated and 3116 02:23:15,229 --> 02:23:11,819 we wound up getting married we've been 3117 02:23:17,300 --> 02:23:15,239 married for 42 years seems like only 3118 02:23:20,599 --> 02:23:17,310 yesterday what does she do I've been a 3119 02:23:25,120 --> 02:23:20,609 stewardess that has some she had been a 3120 02:23:29,960 --> 02:23:25,130 stewardess and then a schoolteacher she 3121 02:23:34,010 --> 02:23:29,970 didn't work while we were married 42 3122 02:23:41,410 --> 02:23:34,020 years long time different worried minute 3123 02:23:45,739 --> 02:23:41,420 I've been married for 40 years Wow 3124 02:23:49,550 --> 02:23:45,749 it seems like only yesterday we're 3125 02:23:51,881 --> 02:23:49,560 losing you teen excuse me well I won't 3126 02:23:54,761 --> 02:23:51,891 talk about my background because 3127 02:23:57,761 --> 02:23:54,771 I keep that secret people know enough 3128 02:23:59,620 --> 02:23:57,771 about me already and I don't want him to 3129 02:24:01,990 --> 02:23:59,630 know any more because it gets to be more 3130 02:24:04,870 --> 02:24:02,000 complicated I have a great grandson I'll 3131 02:24:08,230 --> 02:24:04,880 say that all right all right 3132 02:24:11,081 --> 02:24:08,240 you never know okay well let's go on 3133 02:24:14,890 --> 02:24:11,091 here with one final segment with Stanton 3134 02:24:17,840 --> 02:24:14,900 T Friedman with gene and Randall again 3135 02:24:28,670 --> 02:24:17,850 you're in the para cast 3136 02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:32,569 thank you for listening to GCN 3137 02:24:39,289 --> 02:24:36,810 be sure to visit GCN live.com today as 3138 02:24:42,139 --> 02:24:39,299 you know 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02:28:21,110 the next victim of a break-in 3232 02:28:25,929 --> 02:28:23,900 go to fake tv.com and discover a device 3233 02:28:28,440 --> 02:28:25,939 that creates the illusion someone inside 3234 02:28:31,300 --> 02:28:28,450 is watching TV even with your miles away 3235 02:28:33,610 --> 02:28:31,310 security is a mindset and fake TV should 3236 02:28:45,160 --> 02:28:33,620 be part of your security solution be 3237 02:28:47,770 --> 02:28:45,170 vigilant but not fearful fig tv.com is 3238 02:28:50,710 --> 02:28:47,780 Greg Cameron from presidential UFO calm 3239 02:28:58,200 --> 02:28:50,720 you're listening to the Peres cast the 3240 02:29:04,390 --> 02:29:01,000 always tell the old story here that I 3241 02:29:07,030 --> 02:29:04,400 used to know a sci-fi writer and UFO 3242 02:29:10,270 --> 02:29:07,040 investigator named Otto bender 3243 02:29:12,790 --> 02:29:10,280 remember him oh yeah 3244 02:29:16,900 --> 02:29:12,800 well he died why in the 70s or something 3245 02:29:19,929 --> 02:29:16,910 like that he was a comic book continuity 3246 02:29:24,070 --> 02:29:19,939 writer so he wrote the original Captain 3247 02:29:28,450 --> 02:29:24,080 Marvel he was the creator of Supergirl 3248 02:29:29,770 --> 02:29:28,460 and the Legion of super-heroes yeah and 3249 02:29:33,940 --> 02:29:29,780 of course a friend of Ray Palmer 3250 02:29:38,200 --> 02:29:33,950 I knew Jim Moses from the time I was 3251 02:29:41,740 --> 02:29:38,210 like 15 until the day he died pretty 3252 02:29:45,130 --> 02:29:41,750 much it was interesting here that when 3253 02:29:49,090 --> 02:29:45,140 we first created the para cast back in 3254 02:29:52,210 --> 02:29:49,100 2006 first two guests were Brad Steiger 3255 02:29:55,540 --> 02:29:52,220 and Jim Mosely and the name the para 3256 02:29:58,630 --> 02:29:55,550 cast was basically created for us by 3257 02:30:00,700 --> 02:29:58,640 Brad we had different name we were going 3258 02:30:03,850 --> 02:30:00,710 to call para cast world than you said 3259 02:30:07,780 --> 02:30:03,860 you know no make a para cast and thus we 3260 02:30:10,060 --> 02:30:07,790 did okay we've got one more question 3261 02:30:12,880 --> 02:30:10,070 here we should get to because then we 3262 02:30:16,050 --> 02:30:12,890 can say we've I think that we pretty 3263 02:30:19,060 --> 02:30:16,060 much at least got everybody on the forum 3264 02:30:22,420 --> 02:30:19,070 attended to in some way shape or form 3265 02:30:25,510 --> 02:30:22,430 and creepy greenlight asks what cases 3266 02:30:28,609 --> 02:30:25,520 are events did you once believe as being 3267 02:30:32,780 --> 02:30:28,619 authentic incredible but maybe now sis 3268 02:30:34,550 --> 02:30:32,790 or no or bogus we're a hoax interesting 3269 02:30:35,540 --> 02:30:34,560 question haven't been asked that one 3270 02:30:38,359 --> 02:30:35,550 before 3271 02:30:44,660 --> 02:30:38,369 I can't think of anyone because usually 3272 02:30:46,819 --> 02:30:44,670 I take a middle road I give an answer 3273 02:30:50,389 --> 02:30:46,829 until I am satisfied myself but I've 3274 02:30:53,030 --> 02:30:50,399 looked in all aspects so you know what 3275 02:30:55,219 --> 02:30:53,040 can I say and I haven't come out in 3276 02:30:58,370 --> 02:30:55,229 favor of something bad to say no I was 3277 02:31:02,000 --> 02:30:58,380 right how about the Falcon Lake case you 3278 02:31:03,319 --> 02:31:02,010 are you familiar with Allen yeah I can't 3279 02:31:05,630 --> 02:31:03,329 remember his name 3280 02:31:08,359 --> 02:31:05,640 Chris Frisco she was heavily involved 3281 02:31:10,519 --> 02:31:08,369 with write medical records and so for 3282 02:31:13,219 --> 02:31:10,529 it's a good case as far as I'm concerned 3283 02:31:15,609 --> 02:31:13,229 yeah they that one was is a really 3284 02:31:18,080 --> 02:31:15,619 interesting case and and then someone 3285 02:31:21,710 --> 02:31:18,090 did some checking and found that there 3286 02:31:25,000 --> 02:31:21,720 was some sort of a Russian re-entry that 3287 02:31:28,130 --> 02:31:25,010 had taken place that on the same evening 3288 02:31:32,510 --> 02:31:28,140 so let's throw in that whole case into 3289 02:31:35,000 --> 02:31:32,520 question and yet I'm not sure how you 3290 02:31:37,700 --> 02:31:35,010 would get a bunch of re-entry debris 3291 02:31:39,139 --> 02:31:37,710 hovering over a large lake it has been 3292 02:31:41,780 --> 02:31:39,149 reported by some harnesses 3293 02:31:43,429 --> 02:31:41,790 yeah reentry's don't stay in one place 3294 02:31:45,590 --> 02:31:43,439 very long as they're coming in that's 3295 02:31:48,710 --> 02:31:45,600 the whole point they're going out of a 3296 02:31:50,750 --> 02:31:48,720 fast pace although I imagine maybe you 3297 02:31:52,849 --> 02:31:50,760 know maybe some sort of parallax effect 3298 02:31:55,250 --> 02:31:52,859 or something if you're traveling in the 3299 02:31:57,679 --> 02:31:55,260 right direction relative to system trees 3300 02:32:04,870 --> 02:31:57,689 or something you know it might appear to 3301 02:32:11,149 --> 02:32:08,479 and that pretty much does it for our 3302 02:32:13,670 --> 02:32:11,159 forum questions so is there anything 3303 02:32:17,359 --> 02:32:13,680 you'd like to to say to the audience 3304 02:32:21,649 --> 02:32:17,369 just on your own accord like well I can 3305 02:32:23,769 --> 02:32:21,659 say you might enjoy my books there's six 3306 02:32:27,740 --> 02:32:23,779 of them out there and plus other sources 3307 02:32:32,179 --> 02:32:27,750 and they give references my top secret 3308 02:32:34,130 --> 02:32:32,189 magic lists a dozen PhD theses done 3309 02:32:37,160 --> 02:32:34,140 about UFOs you won't find those anyplace 3310 02:32:40,069 --> 02:32:37,170 else and large sources of data and so 3311 02:32:41,960 --> 02:32:40,079 forth and I stress this because it was 3312 02:32:43,550 --> 02:32:41,970 winning one who's going to do a study 3313 02:32:45,740 --> 02:32:43,560 should be familiar with the published 3314 02:32:49,729 --> 02:32:45,750 literature and I try to make it easy for 3315 02:32:51,620 --> 02:32:49,739 people okay so let's go back to to that 3316 02:32:53,570 --> 02:32:51,630 now you were talking five major studies 3317 02:32:54,769 --> 02:32:53,580 so we I'm sure one of them probably 3318 02:32:57,710 --> 02:32:54,779 would have been the Battelle Memorial 3319 02:33:00,440 --> 02:32:57,720 Institute study that's right that blue 3320 02:33:02,000 --> 02:33:00,450 boy report 14 that's I'm I make that 3321 02:33:04,250 --> 02:33:02,010 available because you can't copyright 3322 02:33:07,160 --> 02:33:04,260 that so I can sell it were the others 3323 02:33:10,849 --> 02:33:07,170 then just remind the rest of the 3324 02:33:13,639 --> 02:33:10,859 congressional hearings of 1968 with 3325 02:33:15,530 --> 02:33:13,649 testimony from dozen scientists 3326 02:33:18,380 --> 02:33:15,540 including me as I say I was the only one 3327 02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:18,390 without a PhD doctor and J Allen Hynek 3328 02:33:26,120 --> 02:33:23,130 sport UFO experience yes encounters 3329 02:33:31,880 --> 02:33:26,130 first second third kind yeah scientific 3330 02:33:33,530 --> 02:33:31,890 inquiry and hym ek and he was chairman 3331 02:33:35,450 --> 02:33:33,540 the Astronomy Department Northwestern 3332 02:33:37,940 --> 02:33:35,460 University and also the government 3333 02:33:40,929 --> 02:33:37,950 consultant on you are on to Project Blue 3334 02:33:44,139 --> 02:33:40,939 Book for 19 years something like that a 3335 02:33:48,950 --> 02:33:44,149 third one was even the Condon report 3336 02:33:50,809 --> 02:33:48,960 University of Colorado study because one 3337 02:33:52,190 --> 02:33:50,819 is special UFO subcommittee of the 3338 02:33:53,570 --> 02:33:52,200 Americans to do Aeronautics and 3339 02:33:56,300 --> 02:33:53,580 Astronautics looked at the kind of 3340 02:33:59,150 --> 02:33:56,310 report they concluded that 30% of 117 3341 02:34:07,000 --> 02:33:59,160 cases studied in detail could not be 3342 02:34:11,389 --> 02:34:07,010 explained Richard Hall the UFO evidence 3343 02:34:13,639 --> 02:34:11,399 nightcap study had thousands of 3344 02:34:15,139 --> 02:34:13,649 sightings that have been collected by 3345 02:34:18,139 --> 02:34:15,149 the National investigations committee on 3346 02:34:21,769 --> 02:34:18,149 aerial phenomena but she knows something 3347 02:34:25,040 --> 02:34:21,779 I'll say something about that I was 3348 02:34:29,269 --> 02:34:25,050 around and I visited I kept a couple of 3349 02:34:31,400 --> 02:34:29,279 times when Hall was compiling that book 3350 02:34:34,190 --> 02:34:31,410 and I volunteered one time for several 3351 02:34:37,160 --> 02:34:34,200 hours and I wrote summaries of UFO 3352 02:34:40,570 --> 02:34:37,170 sightings and it appeared as if they 3353 02:34:42,500 --> 02:34:40,580 went into the book without any real 3354 02:34:44,300 --> 02:34:42,510 verification it was just based on my 3355 02:34:50,660 --> 02:34:44,310 summary so I may have actually 3356 02:34:52,610 --> 02:34:50,670 contributed a paragraph to that book for 3357 02:34:54,800 --> 02:34:52,620 better or worse 3358 02:34:59,840 --> 02:34:54,810 well it is a place to find a lot of 3359 02:35:03,190 --> 02:34:59,850 cases which they couldn't identify and 3360 02:35:07,460 --> 02:35:03,200 the kind that you know most people don't 3361 02:35:11,719 --> 02:35:07,470 know exists and it's like special report 3362 02:35:13,670 --> 02:35:11,729 14 people make do their research for 3363 02:35:17,660 --> 02:35:13,680 proclamation but the facts are in there 3364 02:35:19,700 --> 02:35:17,670 about these the six categories of cases 3365 02:35:23,300 --> 02:35:19,710 and the quality evaluations and all that 3366 02:35:27,110 --> 02:35:23,310 sort of thing and you know the data is 3367 02:35:29,300 --> 02:35:27,120 there like it or not of course these are 3368 02:35:32,570 --> 02:35:29,310 all this is all statistical based on 3369 02:35:36,860 --> 02:35:32,580 sighting reports and so you know when 3370 02:35:41,240 --> 02:35:36,870 will we ever get the class like look at 3371 02:35:45,740 --> 02:35:41,250 Ted Phillips he had hundreds of physical 3372 02:35:47,929 --> 02:35:45,750 trace cases from 80 countries and my 3373 02:35:49,940 --> 02:35:47,939 goodness so you find the same kind of 3374 02:35:51,440 --> 02:35:49,950 physical traces this isn't a light in 3375 02:35:55,070 --> 02:35:51,450 the sky now this is something on the 3376 02:35:58,070 --> 02:35:55,080 ground and I had analysis done in the 3377 02:36:00,490 --> 02:35:58,080 soil from the the burn circle and the 3378 02:36:02,870 --> 02:36:00,500 burn the print and the nearby soil 3379 02:36:06,590 --> 02:36:02,880 definite differences in the composition 3380 02:36:09,820 --> 02:36:06,600 of the soil something what happened to 3381 02:36:18,410 --> 02:36:15,440 they still live as far as I know how 3382 02:36:20,750 --> 02:36:18,420 about the Washington 52 case that's that 3383 02:36:23,090 --> 02:36:20,760 turned into one of my favorites a at 3384 02:36:27,349 --> 02:36:23,100 first it seemed like they'd explained it 3385 02:36:30,320 --> 02:36:27,359 all the way is you know Tamara artifacts 3386 02:36:31,670 --> 02:36:30,330 and so on but it seemed like the more 3387 02:36:34,700 --> 02:36:31,680 you dug into that whether there's 3388 02:36:38,480 --> 02:36:34,710 there's a lot more there well just but 3389 02:36:43,670 --> 02:36:38,490 again my website is triple w Stanton 3390 02:36:45,290 --> 02:36:43,680 Friedman dot-com and I autograph all my 3391 02:36:47,300 --> 02:36:45,300 books and when there are two authors 3392 02:36:50,270 --> 02:36:47,310 like Kathleen Martin and myself they're 3393 02:36:52,610 --> 02:36:50,280 both autograph to the bookplate and you 3394 02:36:55,010 --> 02:36:52,620 can get facts fiction and flying saucers 3395 02:36:57,710 --> 02:36:55,020 you can get crash at Corona their 3396 02:37:00,050 --> 02:36:57,720 Roswell story basically you can get 3397 02:37:02,780 --> 02:37:00,060 science was wrong in fourteen chapters 3398 02:37:04,730 --> 02:37:02,790 we each did seven each stimulated by 3399 02:37:06,301 --> 02:37:04,740 some smart scientist saying something 3400 02:37:08,070 --> 02:37:06,311 stupid like man will never fly 3401 02:37:10,350 --> 02:37:08,080 anything but a balloon two months before 3402 02:37:12,360 --> 02:37:10,360 the Wright brothers first flight or 3403 02:37:15,890 --> 02:37:12,370 space travelers utter bilge the year 3404 02:37:20,911 --> 02:37:15,900 before Sputnik went up things like them 3405 02:37:23,131 --> 02:37:20,921 so they're their places to get data and 3406 02:37:28,501 --> 02:37:23,141 that's what everything should be about 3407 02:37:31,320 --> 02:37:28,511 data and so I welcome anybody to go look 3408 02:37:33,150 --> 02:37:31,330 at the information and if you go to my 3409 02:37:36,031 --> 02:37:33,160 books you get the bibliographies at the 3410 02:37:38,190 --> 02:37:36,041 back which tell you where find even more 3411 02:37:41,011 --> 02:37:38,200 information well that is all the 3412 02:37:43,020 --> 02:37:41,021 information we have time for okay you 3413 02:37:45,751 --> 02:37:43,030 can find us on Twitter look for the 3414 02:37:47,791 --> 02:37:45,761 parent cast look repair of official 3415 02:37:49,980 --> 02:37:47,801 power cast fan clubs on Facebook the 3416 02:37:52,261 --> 02:37:49,990 group the community I don't know about 3417 02:37:53,881 --> 02:37:52,271 Facebook though would have to possibly 3418 02:37:55,921 --> 02:37:53,891 reconsider that with all the crazy 3419 02:37:59,671 --> 02:37:55,931 things that are going on but at least 3420 02:38:01,320 --> 02:37:59,681 they want to capture my texts or the log 3421 02:38:03,720 --> 02:38:01,330 of my phone calls because I use an 3422 02:38:04,140 --> 02:38:03,730 iPhone not an Android phone if that 3423 02:38:06,001 --> 02:38:04,150 helps 3424 02:38:09,451 --> 02:38:06,011 we have a special version of this show 3425 02:38:13,291 --> 02:38:09,461 that we offer to members of the parent 3426 02:38:16,860 --> 02:38:13,301 cast plus we give you a version free of 3427 02:38:18,331 --> 02:38:16,870 the Network ads better quality audio we 3428 02:38:20,671 --> 02:38:18,341 also give you the after the power cast 3429 02:38:22,831 --> 02:38:20,681 podcast which will feature Randall and 3430 02:38:26,400 --> 02:38:22,841 Greg Bishop this week all for a low 3431 02:38:29,371 --> 02:38:26,410 price just go to plus dr. our cast come 3432 02:38:32,070 --> 02:38:29,381 plus dot the para cast come for more 3433 02:38:33,961 --> 02:38:32,080 information Thank You Randall for being 3434 02:38:37,320 --> 02:38:33,971 a great co-host as usual Stanton 3435 02:38:53,011 --> 02:38:37,330 Friedman thank you for joining us on the 3436 02:38:59,560 --> 02:38:56,530 the para cast featuring Jean Steinberg 3437 02:39:02,430 --> 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